I'll go in. Dating anyone at all under capitalism is grooming.
Your options are Volcel, sex pest, or comunism. The math doesn't lie.
This discourse is beyond idiotic, on the one hand you have hyper woke feminists saying you can't consent to anyone a year younger than you and on the other hand you have pedos saying that the age of consent is a bourgeois concept. I just want to be volcel for pete's sake
Honestly maybe liberal feminist twitter made some points about raising the age of consent to 25 because some of these people have the brains of infants and should be treated as such
You can only date people older than you, but they would be dating someone younger than them, so that’s predatory and you shouldn’t date them.
Shaun made this joke and deleted it because people were bothering him about it
Probs just my social circle. There's a girl who keeps getting off with 25-35 year olds when she's 18 and her sex positive feminist friends are calling it girl power. Who the fuck am I to say anything. I just cringe and carry on with my life.
I'm in no position to judge someone like that considering i find people in their mid 30s to be more attractive than people younger, and have done most of my adult life
Feel like the power dynamic is less skewed cos you're a dude. Still vulnerable to emotional manipulation but unless some woman knows mma or has a gun - assuming you aren't totally scrawny - I think 9.9/10 I would escape with my semen still inside my balls.
EDIT: got awfully heteronormative there and forgot that I would get my asshole eaten by a big gay bear 10/10 times
I feel like it's kind of sexist to assume women are more likely to be manipulated because of their gender?
There are plenty of fucked up age-gap relationships, and I don't doubt there is a real phenomena of older men preying on younger adult partners. But the problems in these relationships arise from differences in status, power, wealth and stability, etc, not from the age gap itself.
I clarified that emotionally women and men are equally vulnerable to manipulation. The difference I said is that a violent older man can probably physically intimidate and control a young woman a lot easier than a young man.
I think all those things you said are obviously true, but also think in terms of experience and maturity. An old narcissist knows every trick in the book whilst a young one is probably still figuring it out.
Hello yes?, I'll take one "hypernormalized retreat into simulacra worlds where I can wield meaningless power" please. Yes I'll hold.
All I'm going to say is that college/university professors shouldn't date students from the same college or university they teach at because of the large power imbalance in such a situation. There are plenty of younger people over the age of 18 that they could date that are not from the specific college that they teach at.
I admit it's unwise to do this stuff for all sorts of reasons. But this inches awfully close to 18th century "need to be within 3 class rankings of the other person to have relationship, lest the power imbalance be too great" rhetoric.
And I'm seeing it elsewhere too, to the point I've seen people openly say that having relationships with junior people in your field is unethical, even if they don't work at the same company.
People are going to fall in love and do stupid shit (and should be allowed to), and as long as the person in the teaching position is not in the same department or has any kind of influence over grading or upper admin I can't criticise it too much.
It's nothing to do with class or financial status or anything like that, it's just that there's a dynamic in a student - teacher relationship that makes consent complicated. If the people really want to date they can just wait until the student graduates (imagine they're doing their masters lol). I'm just saying this from the perspective of a university student. Also from the perspective of someone from a high school in which a teacher was eventually fired for "coercing students" (statutory rape) after the school couldn't cover it up any more.
High school is different, as is the case with a direct Student-teacher relationship or senior admin. No one reasonable doubts that that's gotta be banned. I'd go so far as saying anyone in a department that the student takes classes at should be banned.
But a post-doc in a completely different faculty doing research and some lecturing? Or even a junior lecturer. Universities are big. One in my city has 60,000 students, and 10,000 faculty over 3 campuses. Also in my country the concept of liberal arts education doesn't really exist, degrees are specialised so arts, science, social science, medicine, and business people don't really mix together. Sometimes they don't even set foot on the same campus.
Imagine the younger party is doing 3rd year and then goes on to a full, 5 year PhD. What actually happens is that these people resist for awhile, date anyway, and then marry 2 weeks after Thesis acceptance. And everyone knows but the rules are stupid so they don't say anything.
But it's far more acceptable for a post-grad and a full professor from a different university in the same city to hook up at a conference, even though the latter situation arguably has far more impact on career and the power imbalance far worse.
Flattening of discourse. One bad or questionable decision is the same as the worst decisions in the same realm.
That would be unethical because of the power imbalance they have over you.
This is probably a smear campaign to discredit him and the IDW will ignore it because it doesn't fit their narrative of cancel culture.
That said, why ever date or fuck college students? No one under the age of 30 knows how to use their dick right.
Gay men under the age of 23 are literally some of the most exhausting people to be around. I know I was when I was that age. I guess some people can tolerate it though.
I doubt they're dating college kids, they're probably doing it for the prestige of like, oh I'm 30, but I can still have sex with an 18-year-old.
I mean if you're going on the apps in a college town, a not-insignificant number of people you encounter are gonna be college students
Which I mean, yes, in which case I just don't go on the apps. I used to work at a college and I blocked anyone who went to my school even though I was an administrator. It is just bad territory to get into more often than not.
basically he had some relationships/matches on apps with students at a university he lectured at (none of them in his classes). a college dems club is alleging that he went to their events with the intention to get peoples insta and slide into their dms but their accusations are extremely vague. seems like a smear campaign imo, but ill let you be the judge of it, hes prob just a lame warren dem anyway.
Pete Buttigieg met Chasten on a dating app when Pete was a big powerful Mayor in his 30s. Chasten was just a childish powerless grad student almost a decade younger. The power differential & age gap made this like assault, consent impossible.
Solidarity with Chasten, a survivor.
What’s that you say? Chasten doesn’t consider himself a survivor, and insists it was all consensual?
Doesn’t matter. Woke ideologues know better about other adults’ lives (whom they don’t know) than the adults themselves.
Chasten suffers from false consciousness, from trauma.
Damn go off I guess
Imagine every night having your dreams haunted by all those poor dogs.
Chasten suffers
I mean, this is probably true. Cleaning up after Pete is done with his 'stress relief dogs' must be traumatising.
Chasten definitely stuffers from trauma from dating Pete buttigegg, there is no way you can convince me otherwise
I'm curious to know when the Amherst College Democrats will release an open letter banning actual rapists Joe Biden and Bill Clinton from their campus events. I think I'll be waiting a while...
Until I see specific allegations of concrete harm from individual accusers, I have to conclude this is a smear campaign with homophobic undertones. I can't even find the original letter, to find out more specifics.
