Yeah, critical support to the man who tried to form a front against the nazis with the West and was refused because they wanted him and the nazis to take each other out.
Lmao, Mao and Stalin opportunists. One can only laught.
Westerners did not want to fight against Nazis, this makes Stalin's economic support to Nazis and explicit deals in carving up Europe OK. Flawless logic. Mao, the guy who wanted all the classes to collaborate with each other in building a new China, totally a socialist thing to do, is not an opportunist. Lol
Yes, trade with the only countries willing to trade with you is bad, actually. If that surprises you wait until you hear about the economic support by absolutely everyone else to the nazis.
Lmao at "carving out Europe". If you want a nazi Poland you can just say so.
Thank god randomchapouser27362717 is here not just to criticize past leaders, oh no, but to talk about how they SUCKED, were terrible and actually the people who supported them were wrong too.
Economic relations with a country whose party in power had the open goal of destroying Bolshevism is alright, not to mention the economic relation involved materials critical to the German war machine. Amazing logic. Also the USSR had trade relations with UK and USA, their initial five year plans involved importing American machinery and trained engineers who were critical in their industrialization.
Lmao at “carving out Europe”. If you want a nazi Poland you can just say so.
I don't know, I couldve done better than the 40 million dead by not trading with the Nazis, focusing on building defences rather than trusting Nazis till the last moment, and actually listening to my generals.
I. You don't at least feign friendly relations with the Germans to buy time for rebuilding the Soviet military.
II. As a result, Hitler decides you're the more immediate threat compared to the Allies and invade you immediately after Poland.
III. France and Britain do nothing but watch with relish and likely implicitly support it.
IV. You're likely invaded by Japan as well, since the dire resource situation that would historically necessitate their decision to bomb Pearl Harbor is two years away so their forces are unoccupied for awhile.
V. Without those two additional years of preparation for the Red Army, you lose.
VI. Congratulations, everyone in Eastern Europe (200+ million people) is enslaved or killed.
What part of my comment was false. Did the USSR not trade critical materials with the Nazis? Did they not ask to be part of the Axis? Did they not make up plans to have "spheres of influence" side-by-side with the Nazis? Did Stalin not make dumb strategic decisions?
Did Marx and Engels call for state ownership as socialism, did they think socialism in one country was possible? Do you even know why Bernstein is a revisionist?
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Lmao.
Yeah, critical support to the man who tried to form a front against the nazis with the West and was refused because they wanted him and the nazis to take each other out.
Lmao, Mao and Stalin opportunists. One can only laught.
Westerners did not want to fight against Nazis, this makes Stalin's economic support to Nazis and explicit deals in carving up Europe OK. Flawless logic. Mao, the guy who wanted all the classes to collaborate with each other in building a new China, totally a socialist thing to do, is not an opportunist. Lol
Yes, trade with the only countries willing to trade with you is bad, actually. If that surprises you wait until you hear about the economic support by absolutely everyone else to the nazis.
Lmao at "carving out Europe". If you want a nazi Poland you can just say so.
Thank god randomchapouser27362717 is here not just to criticize past leaders, oh no, but to talk about how they SUCKED, were terrible and actually the people who supported them were wrong too.
Economic relations with a country whose party in power had the open goal of destroying Bolshevism is alright, not to mention the economic relation involved materials critical to the German war machine. Amazing logic. Also the USSR had trade relations with UK and USA, their initial five year plans involved importing American machinery and trained engineers who were critical in their industrialization.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E2%80%93Soviet_Axis_talks
Thank god camaron28 is here to defend an idiotic moron who caused immense damage to the communist movement.
Everyone in Eastern Europe would have gotten exterminated by the Wehrmacht if people like you were in charge of the Soviet Union lol.
I don't know, I couldve done better than the 40 million dead by not trading with the Nazis, focusing on building defences rather than trusting Nazis till the last moment, and actually listening to my generals.
I. You don't at least feign friendly relations with the Germans to buy time for rebuilding the Soviet military.
II. As a result, Hitler decides you're the more immediate threat compared to the Allies and invade you immediately after Poland.
III. France and Britain do nothing but watch with relish and likely implicitly support it.
IV. You're likely invaded by Japan as well, since the dire resource situation that would historically necessitate their decision to bomb Pearl Harbor is two years away so their forces are unoccupied for awhile.
V. Without those two additional years of preparation for the Red Army, you lose.
VI. Congratulations, everyone in Eastern Europe (200+ million people) is enslaved or killed.
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What part of my comment was false. Did the USSR not trade critical materials with the Nazis? Did they not ask to be part of the Axis? Did they not make up plans to have "spheres of influence" side-by-side with the Nazis? Did Stalin not make dumb strategic decisions?
Did Marx and Engels call for state ownership as socialism, did they think socialism in one country was possible? Do you even know why Bernstein is a revisionist?
Never met a real ultra before.
If Stalin and Mao are counter revolutionaries doesn't that mean communism basically died in 1924?
Yes. The communist movement died when it failed to go international.
First you gotta put your neck into it
Don't stop, just do, do it
Then you roll your tongue, from the crack back to the front
H-how dare you insult papa Stalin boohoo