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By the time I can afford to have children I'll be cumming bone dust from my mummified dong.
So fucking glad I didn't bank sperm before starting estrogen.
Yep. Being dead saves you a lot of money on stuff like food, air and travel and more. Find out if being dead is right for you today by selling your bones and organs to ailing capitalists who have a booboo!
If you're poor and have kids rich ppl call you irresponsible and if you try to wait until you're not poor OOPS now your prime family years are gone, better luck next time!
Can't win.
The second most annoying thing, after boomers ruining the Earth and everyone's future, is boomers acting surprised about the consequences of their decision.
(Mosquitoes rank third.)
I've been doing genealogy research lately and families fromthe early 1900s and 1800s and before had like, on average, 7-9 children.
I don't think people overall were doing better then financially than they are now, that is, I don't know if number of children correlates to number of babies. A lot of people say that better finances leads to fewer babies per capita - but I have a feeling that's a classist trope.
Saying that, I do think that you're right and people aren't comfortable with having kids these days . But I do think a lot of it is to do with the impending doom of climate change.
Also you weren't necessarily expecting all those kids to live past infancy
Women? In the workplace? Why are they not incubating the next generation of VOLKISH HEROES for the army?!
The Bill Gates experiment with contraception in Africa more-or-less affirms this. He was dumping condoms out of airplanes to no effect. But then he incidentally started treating people in the communities where his staff worked for routine communicable diseases. The infant mortality rate plummeted and... before long, people who had 2-3 young healthy kids to look after started using contraception regularly.
Rather than putting up a big sign that reads "STOP FUCKING", you can just improve people's lives generally speaking and they'll curb their family sizes of their own accord.
If the first sentence justifying why you want children starts with "I want", you shouldn't consciously choose to have kids.
Edit: I would abort myself if I could go back. But I might as well shake shit up while I'm here.
I'm glad you like it. I should really try to get back into writing now that my mental health has been getting better. It sounds self-important, but one of my favorite ways of helping people is to share what I've learned from my studies of philosophy, spirituality, and life itself, in order to make living just a bit easier/more palatable. While Schopenhauer was a notoriously pessimistic philosopher, I really liked his exploration of the "sublime," especially in our hyper-alienated world where everything is turned into consumerism and transactions. I think it taps into a deep human need, one that is sorely undernourished in contemporary society. It can be found, though, even in a purely materialist narrative of the universe. I'll try to journal on this more and see if I can put it into prose to share with this site.
I still owe a bunch of people some other project unironically about beans, though, so you know, fair chance I'll fail to get to it lol.
I wouldn't undo my life either.
As someone who believes in dialectical materialism, I believe that that future societies will progress to socialism and eventually communism. Personally, I want to give my descendants a fighting chance to experience living in those times.
Antinatalism is a fuck. I may have a really hard time with it all too often but I enjoy being alive and experiencing sensation a lot more than the void. Watch me upload when we liberate cyborgs from the capitalists so my pattern of consciousness continues.
If the first sentence justifying why you want children starts with “I want”, you shouldn’t consciously choose to have kids.
Ah yes. Going to police people for having kids because they checks notes don't prose good.
Fuck off with this authoritarian neoliberal virtue-signaling bullshit. People want things. They want families. They want relationships. They want homes. They want cleanliness and comfort. They want free time. It isn't sinful to have desires. And it's absolutely horrible to shame people for wanting to be happy.
Seriously eh. The levels of entitlement are off the charts. These older people had everything handed to them on platter, fucked everything thing up and now the next generation that's been devastated by their actions must wipe their asses and serve them when they will need help? What a joke.
Ultimately they'll just bring in people from countries that still have growing populations or if they're racist enough like japan they'll use robots.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1033027/fertility-rate-us-1800-2020/
- It's been dropping forever.
- There was a huge drop in the Great Depression
- There was a huge boom after WW2.
It makes sense to me that people would have a bunch of kids when they feel like the crises are over or at least receding.... I don't feel like the crises are over.
This is the Millenial mindset that's destroying America. You have the kid, then you try to find a way to support them, fail, fuck up their life, and they go on to hate you for eternity.
I never want to be locked into a soul-sucking job and while that can happen anyways without kids, with kids that shit seems guaranteed.
Dad of a five year old with primary custody. Can confirm. It's bad enough to have your own health insurance or bread and butter on the line...but once you're responsible for a kid it gets a lot harder to choose to opt out of it all.
I'm 30. I had a late start to my career but might be okay once I make my next move. My wife had $80,000 in private debt from undergrad. We are luckier than most, but between rent and loan payments still can't really afford to have a kid for like... 4-5 more years at this rate. again, We are luckier than most. Id love to have kids but my daily live is stressful enough already without worrying about those expenses.
Yeah I get that and at this point I think i'd also be okay not having any. Its more the idealist that still exists within me where i'd make enough money to shield them from the effects of climate change, as chauvinist as that might seem. Even if I got to the point where we could afford it; Its still a tossup to me whether its moral or not to do. im certainly not anti- natalist but I just dont know for myself personally.
I'm brutally anti-natalist. I think it's selfish to bring life into this wretched world understanding the socio-economic devastation that child will have to endure later in life while there are also over 400,000 children in the foster care system. But that's just me. I don't have the emotional or financial capacity to foster children now, but I'd like to think in my 40s I could be the Evelyn Mercer of fostering teens and giving them the necessary guidance and support to enter and flourish in adulthood.
It'd need a catchy title... maybe something like this
Surprised people aren't trying to have more kids during the worst economic period in at least a decade coinciding with a deadly pandemic where you don't want to be around other people let alone at a hospital. Real sexy fucking times we're in right now, baby!
Anecdotally from people I know the pandemic has caused a lottttt of people to have kids out of boredom
Reminded of the joke about how thirty years of abstinence education couldn't do what World of Warcraft achieved in six months.
So I'm understanding that we are not on track to reach One Billion Americans? Oh dear...
