Some recent critiques levied at DSA's organizational strategies peddle in an aesthetic-radicalism that risks distracting the working-class from organizing itself into a disciplined political force.
It’s impossible to deny Bernie’s role in revitalizing the American left
Just as it's impossible to deny Bernies role in completely cratering the American left, the data is in bud, his movement is dead
And there’s a growing number of DSA-backed candidates in office.
Local offices, local elections, none of which have remotely the same impact as burning down a LOCAL police station, lol you compare the effects of local protests to national and state level political dynamics and then turn back around and elevate local elections beyond their context as if they've somehow accomplished something on a national level, the same criticisms you apply to the protests apply a thousand-fold to your local fringe third partyism bud
Running candidates under the PSL banner or something similar doesn’t come close to comparing.
People said the same thing 4 years ago in relation to DSA and Bernies "movement", you've been radicalized, and you don't even know it
I think the main problem with the American left isn't any one person but it is one word, tailism. I feel that after Bernie tapped people on the ass so to say, people progressed to about the conciousness of a Bernie Sanders type, left wing populism, hating the "elite" but nothing further. One thing that this has created however is a small group of people who have moved even past this and into other more correct viewpoints (communism) but these movements have been disjointed from small sects like PSL and SAlt as well as other radicalized groups like breakaway BLM factions and some of the DSA factions. One thing that is needed is for all of these groups to form into a larger group and to have a unified political platform as well as unified structure. Some people have thought that we could do a sort of entryism into DSA but some people think that grow the parties like PSL. Like basically I agree that the communist and left movement in America needs to be bigger than what it is but I dont think that the main problem we have is an insufficently radical populace or anything and I don't think working with the PSL who've had infinite scandal over the past few months and weren't that big in the first place. What we need who knows execpt for a vanguard party.
He had a heart attack, he could barely withstand the media blackout/blitz, last yearcompared to 2016 he was hemorrhaging support, he was sidelined, drowned out and ignored by the majority of Americans
His movement played no role in the protests and many of his top supporters have latched themselves to the democratic apparatus
And frankly Trump had a bigger role in radicalizing and mobilizing the left then bernie ever did, bernie has been there for 40 years, 2000 nobody heard of him, 2004 he was seen as a joke, 2008 nothing in the face of Obama's grift
Play great man history if you want, doesn't change the fact he's done
drowned out and ignored by the majority of Americans
What planet are you from? He had an unprecedented string of early primary victories and was the clear favorite until an unprecedented fix was called in. If the Tara Reade story or the pandemic hit a month earlier Bernie would have likely be in the White House now.
Arguing that we should run candidates in a party people take seriously has nothing to do with great man theory, either.
He had an unprecedented string of early primary victories and was the clear favorite until an unprecedented fix was called in
Literally the only unprecedented win was Nevada, everything else was expected or a crapshoot, he ate shit hard, he practically had no voter base in large parts of the country, he lost southern black voters to a segregationist and you want to tell me this guy was a harbinger of radical politics, please
If the Tara Reade story or the pandemic hit a month earlier Bernie would have likely be in the White House now.
bruh this is some grade A cope shit, if he was the man you claim he was, he would have stuck in there and fought for every state and every delegate, he would have used his base to generate a media blitz around covid and took the primary to the convention. But he didn't because even he knew his movement was cratered, all twitter barks and no grassroot bite
bernie definitely isn't a radical socialist anymore, but that entire primary was completely rigged.
no politician has ever won the first three primaries, either republican or democrat, except for bernie sanders.
no time in history have the leading candidates all dropped out to endorse a single entity prior to super tuesday.
the exit polls all somehow differentiate from the expected outcome, and everyone favors joe biden, rather than being split.
the fix was definitely in. which is just another reason that electoralism is a crapshoot.
It's impossible to deny Bernie's role in revitalizing the American left. And there's a growing number of DSA-backed candidates in office.
Running candidates under the PSL banner or something similar doesn't come close to comparing.
Just as it's impossible to deny Bernies role in completely cratering the American left, the data is in bud, his movement is dead
Local offices, local elections, none of which have remotely the same impact as burning down a LOCAL police station, lol you compare the effects of local protests to national and state level political dynamics and then turn back around and elevate local elections beyond their context as if they've somehow accomplished something on a national level, the same criticisms you apply to the protests apply a thousand-fold to your local fringe third partyism bud
People said the same thing 4 years ago in relation to DSA and Bernies "movement", you've been radicalized, and you don't even know it
I think the main problem with the American left isn't any one person but it is one word, tailism. I feel that after Bernie tapped people on the ass so to say, people progressed to about the conciousness of a Bernie Sanders type, left wing populism, hating the "elite" but nothing further. One thing that this has created however is a small group of people who have moved even past this and into other more correct viewpoints (communism) but these movements have been disjointed from small sects like PSL and SAlt as well as other radicalized groups like breakaway BLM factions and some of the DSA factions. One thing that is needed is for all of these groups to form into a larger group and to have a unified political platform as well as unified structure. Some people have thought that we could do a sort of entryism into DSA but some people think that grow the parties like PSL. Like basically I agree that the communist and left movement in America needs to be bigger than what it is but I dont think that the main problem we have is an insufficently radical populace or anything and I don't think working with the PSL who've had infinite scandal over the past few months and weren't that big in the first place. What we need who knows execpt for a vanguard party.
Everything about this is just so far from reality.
He had a heart attack, he could barely withstand the media blackout/blitz, last yearcompared to 2016 he was hemorrhaging support, he was sidelined, drowned out and ignored by the majority of Americans
His movement played no role in the protests and many of his top supporters have latched themselves to the democratic apparatus
And frankly Trump had a bigger role in radicalizing and mobilizing the left then bernie ever did, bernie has been there for 40 years, 2000 nobody heard of him, 2004 he was seen as a joke, 2008 nothing in the face of Obama's grift
Play great man history if you want, doesn't change the fact he's done
What planet are you from? He had an unprecedented string of early primary victories and was the clear favorite until an unprecedented fix was called in. If the Tara Reade story or the pandemic hit a month earlier Bernie would have likely be in the White House now.
Arguing that we should run candidates in a party people take seriously has nothing to do with great man theory, either.
Literally the only unprecedented win was Nevada, everything else was expected or a crapshoot, he ate shit hard, he practically had no voter base in large parts of the country, he lost southern black voters to a segregationist and you want to tell me this guy was a harbinger of radical politics, please
bruh this is some grade A cope shit, if he was the man you claim he was, he would have stuck in there and fought for every state and every delegate, he would have used his base to generate a media blitz around covid and took the primary to the convention. But he didn't because even he knew his movement was cratered, all twitter barks and no grassroot bite
bernie definitely isn't a radical socialist anymore, but that entire primary was completely rigged.
no politician has ever won the first three primaries, either republican or democrat, except for bernie sanders. no time in history have the leading candidates all dropped out to endorse a single entity prior to super tuesday.
the exit polls all somehow differentiate from the expected outcome, and everyone favors joe biden, rather than being split.
the fix was definitely in. which is just another reason that electoralism is a crapshoot.
You're just out of touch with reality. I don't know how else to put it.