My daughter (16F) has refused to eat dog meat for about a year. Although we all enjoy a nice dog steak, me, my husband and her brother (14M) have tried to be as supportive as possible.
We aren't a family that eats dog meat daily, so it wasn't that hard for me to accommodate her. When I do cook dog meat, I also make something else for her and keep the side dishes common for all. She does have some seperate dishes, but most are common and I clean it if I have to cook for her.
Few months into refusing to eat dog meat, she tried to convince us to stop eating it too and would get increasingly angry when we said no. Me and husband shut that behaviour down hard and told her that she can follow whatever diet she wanted, but she cannot expect others to. She sulked for a while, but stopped doing that.
Last weekend, I cooked the family a big pot of chilli (a small dog-free one and a large one made from one of our Labradors, Cooper), so that I can refrigerate it and use for the next week. Next day, I found the fridge empty of both the chilli and turns out, my daughter decided that we were are being too callous about dog meat. She felt the smell was "too much" when she opened the fridge door and that she can't anything from the fridge after that without gagging or puking. She told me that I need to throw out all the dog-free food in the fridge and restock them.
Me and my husband were livid. Wasting food is never okay with us and that was a lot of food. I told her I am going to continue using the products in the fridge and she can either eat it or not, but I am not wasting food. That whole week she kept making faces at dinner while she ate.
As a punishment, I gave her the recipe and told her she needs to cook Max (another one of our Labradors) next weekend. She yelled and begged, but I stood firm. In the end, she did it.
When the cooking was finished, I told her that wasting food is never okay in this house and pointed out that instead of x amount of dog meat being used, 2x amount of dog meat (Since this seems to be confusing. I meant as in x amount in the pot she wasted + x amount in the new one. I didn't purposefully make her put more than what was used previously) was used because she threw the food away.
Now, she started crying and yelling at me about how awful and disgusting I was because I not only paid someone to kill Max (which my daughter is very much against), I also forced her to cook him and now I am also telling her that it was her fault.
She is really upset about this. So, I am wondering if I went too far. Should I have picked a different punishment? My husband and brother definitely think what I did was right while my parents thinks I was in the wrong.
I thought I will put it to a vote. AITA?
Yep I should have gotten off my 8 year old ass and got a job right?
i'm specifically addressing this part of your take. don't use homeless people as a reason to label all vegans as some luxurious wealthy hipsters.
edit: furthermore, as a child you're probably just going to be eating whatever your parents eat. i'm not against people eating meat, i'm against attacking vegans as boogie and only capable of being vegan because they've got money, which is obviously not the truth.
Dont try to put words in my mouth. Vegans are mostly luxurious wealthy hipsters, and you trying to tell me that others out there that live on the charity of others should tell those people to fuck off until they bring something that they like is a garbage take. Just because you had the resources that gave you the ability to choose what you eat does not mean that others do. That was my point.
lol you're a joke.
i literally told you vegan food is way you're accessible than meat when you're homeless, and you're being a hypocrite by literally putting words in my mouth when you literally just said
which is exactly the words I quoted you as saying.
i demonstrated that homeless people have the ways and means of eating a vegan diet and explained the methods through which they do. you didn't have a real point, as I just showed you.
edit: are you fucking with me and i'm just missing it? cause i don't understand otherwise how this is possible
Far from it my friend. You won! I am going to go right now down to my local church and tell them to stop serving people food until its all vegan.
whenever i went to a foodbank 90 percent of the food they gave out was canned vegetables and bread and pasta, and feeds usually have a vegetarian option.
You must live in an interesting area. You should come around Utah sometime. The Mormons will feed just about anybody but sadly they get to like decided what it is. When my mom would do it she would just get handed a sheet by the local Bishop all filled out by him. When my parents got divorced we so dirt poor that this stuff is all I had to eat for a long time. Perhaps there was an option like you say and I am just making as ass out of myself, but as you can see on that link its not really friendly in telling what is and isn't vegan. I am just trying to figure out how you feed people in situations where they have no choice. Sure you can walk away from stuff like the Mormon welfare programs but like is that really an option for long in an area like Utah?
most of that stuff is vegan. most things are vegan. your parents didn't want to be vegan, and there's nothing wrong with that. anytime i've literally had zero access to meat it sucked. some people just want to eat meat, and there's nothing wrong with that.
it doesn't mean you have to attack vegans as boogie though.
most of the options on that mormon welfare sheet you just showed were vegan shit, save for the meat categories, dairy categories, desserts, honey, and the soups
Did ya miss the part where I told you that the Bishop fills it out for you?
And playing the blame game really does work to push people towards your ideology. I would keep it up.
You can criticize anyone at any time, even if they give you things and you accept them. That isn't hypocritical. You can criticize people for bad things they do even when they also do good things.
What would you have done with a homeless shelter that doesn't accept anyone who isn't white, or male, or cis? You wouldn't want them to stop housing unhoused people, but obviously that cannot continue, right?
The homeless shelter has the option to stop discriminating today and continue to provide shelter. These ideas are not at all in conflict.
No ethical vegan on this site is telling anyone who has no choice in the matter to die because they can't afford meat, they're just telling you that almost everyone can afford rice. I know this to be true because my family of 3 lives on the paycheck of one disabled family member and I manage to make good vegan food every single day of the week, and no one ever goes hungry.
Do not compare me being trans with the choice of being vegan. Lets just get that out of the way before you continue replying to me.
I didn't know that you were trans, but my point still stands. Pick a thing that the shelter would exclude people for, it doesn't matter what it is.
My argument isn't about vegans being excluded, it's about the church deciding not to serve vegan food.
There is no choice in being trans, the skin color you were born with, and other things. That is what I am pointing out and its frustrating I need to do that. Being vegan is a situational choice for a person based on money and opportunity.