STOP 👏 SIDING 👏 WITH 👏 FASCISTS 👏

  • PermaculturalMarxist [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    The Communist Party of Britan is the good one, the CP-GB is a revisionist party that exists to have bad takes and make communism look bad, much like the CPUSA

    edit: ah, this is about CPGB-ML. I don't know much about them, but I stand by the CPGB vs. CPB comment

  • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Sometimes the working class can be manipulated into working for fascists. Anyone can. It fucking sucks.

    They aren't anti-capitalist and you can bet your ass most of them are anti-communist.

    • grilldaddy [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      "financial troubles" obviously not the same thing as "working class" but yeah, the rioters were overwhelmingly financially insecure. It'd be cool and rhetorically convenient if they were all rich boat dealership assholes but that's not the reality.

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/02/10/capitol-insurrectionists-jenna-ryan-financial-problems/

      • SoyViking [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Fascism is very attractive to those who feel they deserve a privileged position in society but who either feel their position is threatened, lose it or never gets it.

        Temporarily embarrassed millionaires and failing small business tyrants see fascism as a way to regain the status they feel they've lost.

  • Mardoniush [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    What is TERF Island's fucking damage? I know this is just a tiny 4th order split party but fucking hell.

  • WittyProfileName [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    CPGB-ML is cursed anyway. They have aligned themselves with the capitol hill insurrection because their views are the same.

    They don't believe trans people exist, they think lgbtqia+ activism is actually a bourgeois plot to distract the working class, they think racism doesn't exist in modern Britain.

    They are the epitome of anti-idpol pseudo-leftism, they talk big game about how a revolution must happen but never involve themselves in any actual substantial praxis or activism. When riots occur, when protests are having their moments, you will find the CPGB-ML online ranting about whatever minority groups got them pissy most recently.

    Say what you like about the various trot parties and groups like the socialist worker, but they have a presence at pretty much every leftwing protest that occurs and are always involved in the counter protests to reactionaries.

    tl:dr CPGB-ML are reactionary opportunists and basically Strasserite in their views.

    Apologies for the wall of text, these twats just annoy me deeply.

  • ElGosso [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    TBH knowing how British Trotskyism has been coopted and mutated it wouldn't surprise me if the Brits just thought these were normal trots

  • CarlTheRedditor [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2021/01/the-class-composition-of-the-capitol-rioters-first-cut.html

      • Mardoniush [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        What's that political system that often shows up when the PB are feeling insecure and squeezed by the HB again, I forget.

  • PurrLure [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Working class? You mean all the wealthy retirees, landlords and small business owners?

    I thought most of the people there had to spend hundreds (if not over a thousand) for transportation and hotel stay on short notice. Not exactly something your average working class would be able to do during a pandemic.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      You mean all the wealthy retirees, landlords and small business owners?

      Some of them were broke-ass aspiring instagram influencers, tho.

      I thought most of the people there had to spend hundreds (if not over a thousand) for transportation and hotel stay on short notice.

      It was like Burning Man for Chuds. A solid mix of tech / finance goons doing Revolutionary LARP, real-ass Oathkeeper / 3%er white christian nationalists who legit supported an insurgency, and political grifters/tourists who just wanted to be at the center of the spectacle.