The issue isn't 'people think it's a racist take', it was the people posting the takes being unnecessarily racist.
"hey, you're accidentally making my people into the butt of a joke but I agree with the point about less factory farm consumption, maybe tone down the unintentional racism?"
"LOL I HAVE 69 UPVOTES, READ SETTLERS" "Is this honest indigenous person discussing their culture doing an irony?" "Man Bloodmouth carnists will misinterpret everything, why did you have to make my unintentionally racist joke all about race? Can't you see even though I made you into a punchline, I wasn't actually joking about you, it was a joke crafted for a different audience, wherein the punchline is people like you are funny to laugh at" "why do you have to continuously make things about race, after only 2 times of you calling me and my buddy's unintentional racism out?"
All while mods ignore the indigenous people posting and some mods will start their own struggle session implying people disagreeing with vegan trolls are reactionary or whatever, and parody a thread made by an indigenous person wherein posting the comments of a few indigenous vegans is made to directly counter actual racism from posters on this site, therefore missing the point completely.
It's both that and the fact that this take is stupid and racist. Drawing an equivalence between the nigh-insurmountable trauma imposed upon POC and communities through the insanely brutal history of slavery that weighs them down to this day with both structural and spiritual challenge to a morally wrong but entirely incomparable industry of growing and selling animals for food is utterly disgusting. No, because pigs were able to recognize food and basic patterns with the same efficiency as a baseline three-year-old does not make them equivalent to humans whatsoever--adding in downplaying of the utter trauma inflicted by slavery through this comparison only worsens this garbage take.
I was just posting a baby-step to that, because there is so much work to even acknowledge directly racist posters were racist, so I didn't even want to open that more conceptual can of worms.
And even then when some people were finally responding to my posts with stuff like "oh you and your people don't see dogs as equals, whatever, you're missing the point", despite me repeatedly saying my people view animals/humans/plants as equals and this understanding underpins why we would eat and use dog without qualms .
Then somehow I am called a reactionary, moralising idealist when that is exactly how many could label veganism and the specific sort of tone-deaf examples of it being posted yesterday.
The issue isn't 'people think it's a racist take', it was the people posting the takes being unnecessarily racist.
"hey, you're accidentally making my people into the butt of a joke but I agree with the point about less factory farm consumption, maybe tone down the unintentional racism?"
"LOL I HAVE 69 UPVOTES, READ SETTLERS" "Is this honest indigenous person discussing their culture doing an irony?" "Man Bloodmouth carnists will misinterpret everything, why did you have to make my unintentionally racist joke all about race? Can't you see even though I made you into a punchline, I wasn't actually joking about you, it was a joke crafted for a different audience, wherein the punchline is people like you are funny to laugh at" "why do you have to continuously make things about race, after only 2 times of you calling me and my buddy's unintentional racism out?"
All while mods ignore the indigenous people posting and some mods will start their own struggle session implying people disagreeing with vegan trolls are reactionary or whatever, and parody a thread made by an indigenous person wherein posting the comments of a few indigenous vegans is made to directly counter actual racism from posters on this site, therefore missing the point completely.
It's both that and the fact that this take is stupid and racist. Drawing an equivalence between the nigh-insurmountable trauma imposed upon POC and communities through the insanely brutal history of slavery that weighs them down to this day with both structural and spiritual challenge to a morally wrong but entirely incomparable industry of growing and selling animals for food is utterly disgusting. No, because pigs were able to recognize food and basic patterns with the same efficiency as a baseline three-year-old does not make them equivalent to humans whatsoever--adding in downplaying of the utter trauma inflicted by slavery through this comparison only worsens this garbage take.
Honestly, yes to all of this too.
I was just posting a baby-step to that, because there is so much work to even acknowledge directly racist posters were racist, so I didn't even want to open that more conceptual can of worms.
And even then when some people were finally responding to my posts with stuff like "oh you and your people don't see dogs as equals, whatever, you're missing the point", despite me repeatedly saying my people view animals/humans/plants as equals and this understanding underpins why we would eat and use dog without qualms .
Then somehow I am called a reactionary, moralising idealist when that is exactly how many could label veganism and the specific sort of tone-deaf examples of it being posted yesterday.