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  • CommieElon [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    If I was in a swing state, I'd bite my tongue and vote for them. But I'm in California so I'm just going to vote for the old commies Gloria La Riva and Leonard Peltier.

    • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      If I was in a swing state, I’d bite my tongue and vote for them.

      Hell no. I'm in NC and no way in hell am I voting Biden. I'll laugh if when loses though.

      • CommieElon [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I'm in the environmental field and seeing firsthand the irreparable damage Trump is doing to the environment. With him in office we're well on the way to losing public lands and face ecological collapse as a result. I doubt Biden/Kamala will be much better but I hope they'll at least halt the downsizing of public lands and the dismantling of the EPA. Couple that with Trump and Barr using Federal law enforcement the last few weeks.

        I completely understand we need to pull political power away from the Democratic party and we can't vote Fascism out but 4-8 years of Biden/Kamala will give the left more time to organize and grow. We need as much time as possible to prepare for when a figure worse than Trump shows up.

        I don't blame you for not voting for Biden but that's my two cents as an environmentalist.

        • footfaults [none/use name]
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          I feel like the 8 years of Obama was supposed to have been the time the organizing was to happen. We were fresh off the Bush W years, and people just went back to sleep.

          If Biden wins it'll be the same thing again. People will go back to sleep, another couple of years will pass and nothing will have been done.

          • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Obama was pre-Bernie. Like him or not, Bernie was incredibly instrumental in the growth of the left.

          • CommieElon [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Yeah, I don't disagree. I don't know, just very confused about the whole situation. Electoralism is a sham regardless.

        • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          the irreparable damage Trump capitalism is doing to the environment.

          This shit's been happening since long before Trump.

        • Speaker [e/em/eir]
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          4 years ago

          Serious environmentalists are currently stocking up on fertilizer and diesel for normal farm activities and no other reasons.

        • proletari [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          Imagine being an environmentalist and thinking the EPA is your ally in any way

    • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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      4 years ago

      Peltier isn't on the ticket anymore, sadly. He dropped out because of his health IIRC