She’s probably already compromised, or her staff are being handled by state department/cia, but maybe if enough people call she’ll at least be a bit more embarrassed. Worth a shot, because she’s not going away and her doing this shit is damaging.
She’s probably already compromised, or her staff are being handled by state department/cia, but maybe if enough people call she’ll at least be a bit more embarrassed. Worth a shot, because she’s not going away and her doing this shit is damaging.
Look deeper into her background. Very suspicious time at a US "aid" org in an African country that experienced a coup shortly after. Very suspicious employment in the powerful Ted Kennedy's Senate office. Very suspicious media coverage and fawning over someone who supposedly has politics they hate. This and convenient reactionary slander against her that helps to obfuscate her real background, lies about her being just bartender that she eagerly plays up to play the working woman. They blacklist Bernie Sanders but her they platform and gab about? I think she may have been an op since the start. Another false path to fool the western left into continuing irrelevance.
Oh I 100% agree. She interned for USAID during a coup in Niger for fucks sake. She is very very suspect edit: when it comes to foreign policy and being pliable by the narrative that is told to her by ngos with bad motives . But she’s a net positive at this point if she shuts up about foreign policy, and she’s not going away any time soon. So the least we can do is put some form of pressure on her to shut the fuck up
We all know the CIA is famous for sending teenagers to do coups in places where they don't even speak the language, right folks?
Where did I say she did a coup? She interned for a CIA front. They didn’t give her a fucking gun. But maybe just maybe she believed they were doing the right thing or thinks USAId is on the up and up? That’s the problem. That’s what makes her susceptible to their influence. Not because she was tasked with helping the opposition take over state media lmao
And the Niger coup was one that didn’t have clearly defined good guys and bad guys, and if your notion of foreign politics and our place as an “ombudsman” is formed during such an event, maybe when a Bolivia happens and Bolivian opposition expats want a photo op, you take it... and then Venezuela, then Tibet, then Xinjiang, then Cuba, etc
You know what an insinuation is. "She interned for USAID during a coup in Niger for fucks sake. She is very very suspect." = insinuating she was involved in the coup.
Not every employee in an organization like USAID is a CIA agent. The whole point of doing intelligence work through a cutout is that (1) you gain deniability by doing plenty of mundane stuff, too; and (2) people like college kids will think you're doing good work and not CIA stuff. It's beyond ridiculous to CIA-jacket every teenager who interned there. We can't entertain nonsense like this if we hope to get anything done.
Sure there are college students who interned there who do NOT use their platform to be a useful idiot for imperial propaganda
In other words, she’s suspect because of her actions and words given her background, not insinuation
Do you see the problem with baselessly accusing people of being involved with the CIA? Do you see how jacketing can be used against the left?
Is the CIA directing her to call out American imperialism in Venezuela, too? We have to be smarter about this.
Hold up, what?
And Obama’s mom was working with USAID in Indonesia in 1965 :thonk:
To my knowledge though, Obama’s mom doesn’t platform literal anti-China propaganda. You can work for a cia cutout and still come out ok
Edit: well, I guess her husband (sotero) is sus and fought the communists. Cool. Cool. If I recall from Obama’s first book it was implied that the relationship was short lived and he was abusive towards his mom potentially Barack
CIA-jacketing one of the farthest-left politicians in the country seems very productive.
Yeah, I take issue with the person you’re replying to saying the media coverage and interning in Ted Kennedy’s make her a Trojan horse. I do think her USAId background is deeply troubling. And she’s very suceptible if some cia front org lobbies her staff to get her to do a floor speech about an issue
This is you responding to that person. We shouldn't be wildly, baselessly accusing someone of being involved with the CIA -- holy shit, how is this not self-evident?
LOL. She is meaninglessly "left". The western chauvinist's idea of "left" which is a few programs for the poor while the machine grinds on. She helps nothing, she builds nothing, she is a pressure relief valve and the CIA is happy she exists. It matters little whether she is literally on their payroll and can walk into Langley and flash a badge or just a stooge, the second is almost more shameful because the first at least gets paid to have a specific agenda and opinion (and to be clear I don't think she's CIA, but she swims in the same rivers and streams as them, she carries their stench and their foreign policy ideology). She's also in a position of power. I'm not in a position to cancel her or kick her out of an org or do really anything like that so SHUT THE FUCK UP. She's a favorite with liberals and the media but people like you -liberals in any way you like to see it- will continue to support her.
Listen to me very closely: The only thing that matters, the only identifying mark of any merit for a western leftist is solidarity with existing-AES nation and anti-imperialism. If one cannot openly support AES nations for some reason of tactics to reach liberals then one should still oppose and disdain imperialist action and intrigue against them, not co-author bills with Marco Rubio to attack them. It isn't hard, just point out we never achieve any of the lofty human rights goals we achieve and that we need to fix our own backyard before telling others how to tend theirs. Yet that's too much because fundamentally she and many chauvinists in the so called left in the west (an impotent left, one taken to fantasy and compromise, one that has NEVER had a successful revolution or any revolutionary theorists as a consequence) have drunk the kool-aid. Repeat after me, I do not give a fuck if she gives you worker-co-opts in the US if it is built off the backs of the global south, of imperialized, neo-colonized nations, off death squads and neo-liberalism abroad for soc-dem policies at home you have done nothing but further incentivized the US proletariat to stay class traitor because of their position of labor aristocracy.
Reformism (especially via electoralism) is idealism, is an idea that should have been cured from your head by Bernie Sanders and all that happened to him. When you sleep with the devil in Washington DC you don't change that devil, it changes you.
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