Trying to decide if I want to go with a "cancel culture isn't real" or "cancel culture is good, actually" stance. May even try a little agitprop with a "cancel culture is just marketing" stance. Lend me your best dunks so I can clown on 'em
This is the only real answer. If my boss forgets my name, it’s a good day
Best answer, since you don't want to get fired. However, you can take a shit longer than you should if you are able to. Just remember to ....... Follow the rules to the letter ...... if it's safe for you to. Just read the room.
Eh, I work in a lib office space at a big company. Insofar as I'm civil, no one with the power to fire me will notice or care about the content of what I'm saying. It's extremely low risk
Definitely "cancel culture is just marketing."
The other two just read as edgy for the sake of it and will never get a constructive response from anyone.
My job had something like this a while ago, although it was more like "we condemn liberal cancel culture and do not tolerate it here" but I live in Texas
Oh yes. I've had to suffer many a le enlightened STEMlord takes at my dev job.
They're usually very informal talks over lunch though, never heard of anybody actually organize it.
Every time I see someone mad about cancel culture my immediate instinct is to demand even more things are canceled. Oh, the rapist skunk? Get rid of all cartoons. Potatohead? Mandate that all toys have customizable genders.
Sometimes I think that cancellation is a way for oppressed people to believe they have some agency. "That's it, I'm never watching House of Cards again! My power lies in my consumer decisions and I did my part to stop the One Bad Man!"
i think it would be good to point out that cancel culture is not merely a liberal/left phenomenon. The right engages in "cancel culture," all groups engage in "cancel culture".
McCarthyism/red scare shit is an example of cancel culture. A more recent example could be post-9/11: Phil Donahue got his show on MSNBC cancelled b/c he was against the invasion of Iraq. Bill Maher also got his show cancelled for being critical of US Foreign policy. Also, imagine being a politician and saying Israel should not exist. You'd never have a career in politics.
Here's a good article someone linked on this site: https://theintercept.com/2020/07/18/political-correctness-destroying-america/
Like, what is "cancel culture?" It's just normal human interactions, except that now we're "cancelling" people for hating gay people and not being progressive enough, as opposed to cancelling them for being communists and not wanting to invade Iraq. I'd call that an improvement. As someone else in the thread notes, people have always been asked to follow certain norms. It's just that now these norms are changing.
Also, I'd be interested to hear these people's solutions to "cancel culture." I think there was a dunk tank post recently of some twitter person complaining that nowadays she has to self-censor herself around her friends. Like, yeah, of course, we all self-censor ourselves to some extent so we can have a functioning society and normal interactions. Like what should we do, just all walk around with no filter all the time?
This obsession with cancel culture seems to me to just be because people who aren't used to having their opinions questioned are now having them questioned, and it's much more bottom-up, since the internet has allowed regular people to more easily interact with celebrities and politicians.
This is such a great excerpt and did a great job of putting a bunch of conservative rhetoric in context, so thanks. I opened the link to read the whole article and got to the first line -
If you’re like most liberals,
Shit, I've been found out :LIB:
This was a great resource. Framing what we call "cancel culture" as the public dialogue being had about normative behaviors/beliefs really took the wind out of the "why can't we have a conversation about it" arguments. More than a few people ended up coming around on this point alone. Thanks!
"Cancel culture historically has its roots in orthodox religion to punish those who don't conform to their moral turpitude. It only became an issue after white men were asked to stop using racial slurs and groping young women."
it's real but has nothing to do with people rightly criticizing journalists and politicians. mostly it's a way for powerless, traumatized people in small, insular artistic and political "communities" to tear each others' throats out.
Frankly I'd just bring up Steven Donziger and simply state "Any claims of being 'cancelled' that are less severe than what this man has undergone are not worth anyone's god damn time."
But the "it's work just coast through it" tack is probably much better advice
