These narratives have real world consequences. Anytime you mention Xinjiang or that China is committing a "genocide" to liberals and conservatives it helps spread this shit. It helps reinforce Sinophobic narratives and will result in more deaths. Combat these lies and this propaganda where you see It. It is our moral duty to do so.

  • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    China has the best deals right now for any country seeking investment. They promote unions and usually transfer ownership back to a state company after the investment plus some interest is made back. I don't see how that's bad compared to the IMF and their infinite perpetual 6x returns loans.

    • DresySupremacy [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Firstly, lol if you think incompetent governments can pay shit back. I wouldn't trust my government to find their way out of a plastic bag. Secondly, I know the union talk. The union is so great that they won't lift a finger unless someone says something mean. I did better union by myself by going into the office of a manager from the company, pointing a gun at his head and telling him that unless he fixes something that was an oversight, he and his whole family can find themselves in a lake.

      IMF is trash, that's not a given anyway.

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        The "paying back" part of the Chinese deals is almost always a profit sharing scheme though. Like look at their recent mine and port deals. They maintain a 51% share of profits until the investment is paid off plus a bit, then they transfer full ownership to the state company. At that point it's on you and the local government structure and China isn't involved anymore. Unlike Western loans that create dependence and permanent debt...

        And I'm sure the local unions are corrupt as fuck, but again, that's on you and not China...or are they supposed to show up with guns and kill your leaders? I don't really see how that's less imperialist than developing infrastructure and creating the basic structures necessary for a labor movement.

        • DresySupremacy [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          I want my country to put into effect the same rules that China has without them whining that's it's some anti-Chinese conspiracy. At least with Western loans they are outright that they are trying to fuck you.

          • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            I don't see your point. Do you think no investment is better? Or China should only do charitable investment? Or that China should be exporting revolution like the Soviets did?

            • DresySupremacy [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              Lol I'll give you an example. China wanted to build a highway in our country. They started it, didn't even want to hire local workers and the ones they did they tried to not pay them or pay way under the minimum wage. Then they dipped halfway through the project so the country had to find another company to finish the project. Years wasted, money wasted.

              • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                Damn. So China approached the government and building the highway, then abandoned it halfway? Or did the government contract the highway a Chinese construction company that failed to complete the project?

                Either way, the minimum wage stuff is bad. That seems very out of the ordinary though. At least from most of the projects I've read about.

                • rolly6cast [none/use name]
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                  3 years ago

                  The not hiring local workers does sound in line with what I've heard in terms of reasonable criticism or even defenders within the region as well.