I'll bite.
Fight club gets more hate than it deserves. It is basically right, apart from the misogyny, and people only hate it because bros didn't understand it.
I'm coming around to the idea that Fight Club is bad on an ideological level because it's intended as a satire of toxic masculinity. Durden's social criticism, radicalism, and organizing end up being symptoms of his toxicity instead of decent parts of an otherwise shitty individual, and the ultimate takeaway is that fighting to change society through non-electoral means is just as bad as misogyny and doing bareknuckle boxing instead of going to therapy.
Thing is, Fight Club isn't a straight up satire of toxic masculinity. Both the film and the book have a more complex relationship with it than just "look at the dudes being stupid assholes lmao". Tyler is supposed to be cool, this isn't a misreading of the movie.
Ya, fight club is one of the best depictions of a masculinity so brittle its proponents have to push its sisyphusean boulder up the hill constantly. I think it has merit as a commentary on consumerism and the emptiness it creates but it tends to be too hamfisted with the former and too stingy with the latter.
I'll bite. Fight club gets more hate than it deserves. It is basically right, apart from the misogyny, and people only hate it because bros didn't understand it.
I see the "fight club is satire of toxic masculinity" take much more frequently than fight club hate.
I'm coming around to the idea that Fight Club is bad on an ideological level because it's intended as a satire of toxic masculinity. Durden's social criticism, radicalism, and organizing end up being symptoms of his toxicity instead of decent parts of an otherwise shitty individual, and the ultimate takeaway is that fighting to change society through non-electoral means is just as bad as misogyny and doing bareknuckle boxing instead of going to therapy.
Thing is, Fight Club isn't a straight up satire of toxic masculinity. Both the film and the book have a more complex relationship with it than just "look at the dudes being stupid assholes lmao". Tyler is supposed to be cool, this isn't a misreading of the movie.
Here for sure, but this place is better than the rest of thr internet.
I saw that take a lot on r/movies circlejerk but that's sub is full of chapo refugees.
Ya, fight club is one of the best depictions of a masculinity so brittle its proponents have to push its sisyphusean boulder up the hill constantly. I think it has merit as a commentary on consumerism and the emptiness it creates but it tends to be too hamfisted with the former and too stingy with the latter.
Yeah, the mvoie did not capture subtlety with shirtless brad pit.