https://archive.ph/wip/zWtaP
https://www.reddit.com/user/GoDreamBeeGo
Another thread where they lay out that they're anti-sex because they like Jesus and animals or something: https://www.reddit.com/r/antisex/comments/17hma20/looking_for_a_sexless_revolution/ / https://archive.ph/wip/mdCK5
I'm new here, and am so on fire to find there is an antisexual revolution going on. There is a vision I see to create a smaller team of individuals who want to combat sexual worship and swinger groups who even take their own children there to be molested. IT HAS TO STOP, and I say we are the ones who go out there and expose them and use this as our base platform. Who is in?
We need 7 different types of people to fill the 7 positions in this team. And this is our flag: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Q_4yxPlJTAhyRNDBk-Ba2SylUygzT32n/view?usp=drive_link
Positions on this team:
Dirt (Brown): Gifts of Perseverance and Pain - Something inside you makes you endure suffering as though it is a matter of life or death. Those with the gift of pain take more of a beating than everyone else and help carry the weight of their teammates
Ash (Grey): Gifts of Zealousness and Wrath - Something inside you builds with a righteous anger toward evil like an unstoppable rage. Those with the gift of wrath bring those around them a heightened state of focus on their mission
Hellfire (White): Gifts of Rescuing and Hatred - Something inside you is unyielding against things you sense are inherently wrong. Those with the gift of hatred give their teammates protection and discernment against evil.
Brimstone (Neon Yellow): Gifts of Revelation and Sacrifice - Something inside you is ready to give your life for what you stand for. Those with the gift of sacrifice are so on fire for what they are ready to die for that nothing can extinguish their fire, not even death.
Navy (Navy Blue): Gifts of Freedom and Vengeance - Something inside you gives you a relentless desire to bring an end to what is suffocating humanity. Those with the gift of vengeance keep their team going when their teammates have no faith.
Marine (Dark Aquamarine): Gifts of True Love and Woe - Something inside you gives you courage when your heart breaks for the lost and broken and the innocent. Those with the gift of woe give their teammates faith when theirs is dwindling.
Hyacinth (Hyacinth): Gifts of Truth and Dread - Something inside you knows there is some kind of dark otherworldly existence. Those with the gift of dread see things no one else does and have extra discernment when confronting the unseen.
yeah back when there was only the discord, i viewed the volcel memes as a funny pushback on the idea that you have to be OK with lots of sexual stuff or just having porn in main or whatever, a way to make space for ace comrades.
but i think over time it's lent itself to both the discord and hexbear having some bad tenderqueer tendencies, unironically presenting being openly sexual as itself inherently inappropriate or harmful to others - see kink at pride discourse and the betrayal of communities that have long struggled against cops as part of the queer community, or frankly some SWERF tendencies that just outright ignore what sex workers themselves - especially black prostitutes - have actually written on the topic and their very hostile views on "abolitionist" feminists (or the term "sex worker" itself kinda being used by academics as a form of stolen valor to present people who just research sex as marginalized and oppressed as people who literally have sex for money). like one of the earliest dramas of this community came out of some asshole singling out an autistic mod and relying on the fact that they're openly sexual and also awkward to present them as some sinister predator - i don't think it would have caused as much harm had the community been more critical of this framing of sexuality.
iunno where the line is, as i think it's still OK to communicate that it's fine to be sex repulsed and important that people's boundaries be respected. but i do think that there is a problem around the entitlement to comfort; i mostly personally know this through an autistic lens, but the vagueness of an appeal to "discomfort" often does just refer to someone literally just acting autistic (my eyes and facial expressions make people "uncomfortable" and I get called "creepy" purely because my mask is imperfect), i watched mastodon libs appeal to comfort to silence black people just talking about everyday racism they encounter, and i think the tenderqueer expectation that their discomfort requires nobody ever be sexual in their presence causes a lot of similar problems.
i think the memes are probably still fine but maybe there ought to be some nuance introduced to make sure they're not being used nappropriately, to avoid falling into that kind of rreaction.
My thing is when a space is overtly sexual it becomes easier for people to play off them harassing women as a joke or whatever
This happens a lot online
yep. and the chaser shit. and people with very problematic kinks. there's very good reasons to have a less sexual space.
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Misogynists, Chasers, Pedophiles.
Anyone who has a kink with an implicit lack of consent from another party. Those groups will thrive on forum environments if you don't remove them.
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I'm that case, the second part of my comment still stands, just anything that involves pushing yourself into a group that isn't participating. Exhibitionism, catcalling, etc.
Treating a general forum like a pornhub comments section and describing graphic sexual acts in a not explicitly sexual post.
In terms of like specific kinks, as long as it's between consenting adults and no one gets seriously hurt it's all gravy
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idk i think hexbear has so far had very good moderation policy on this. the volcel thing is a meme, theres definitely people talking about sexuality and horniness here seriously (i thirst post about my bf all the time here). i guess like, what kind of post do you want to make rather than something abstract? like give me an example
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Yeah I get what you're getting at now. Not sure how moderation would work in that instance but it does sound like a niche. Id even say there's a lot of pretty sexual memes posted to c/traa but I just make sure they're NSFW tagged and not directed at anyone in particular and aren't porn. Going through a second puberty is a weird thing for a lot of people so rules leniency and learning from others about boundaries is important.
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Np 👍 if you have any suggestions for the comm I'm all ears. If you stick to one long term account with good mileage (decent number of comments and posts) I'll even add you as a mod if you want. My goal is to get as many people involved as possible so we can spread dealing with transphobia and so on out among a lot of people so no one gets burned out.
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Strongly disagree, I'm bi and feel safer here than anywhere else on the Internet.
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i can totally read english and some things dont instantly leave my brain i swear
like im fine with selective horny posting about vague topics, i think directing horniness at any one person that isnt like, your SO or w.e., is dangerous though. proper nsfw tagging should apply so people can tune out
We have
horny emotes, so this place also isn't totally anti-sex. We just don't want to deal with hosting literal pornography on here. There are dozens of sex related posts here that thrive and the volcel stuff is only brought up when people start getting a bit too aggressive with their hornyness.
Porn, being horny, and discussions about porn and being horny are all different things and the latter two are definitely welcome here with some caveats on the being horny.
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That is true. But I still think there's an issue with many of these spaces of defining anything outside that space as bad - I often see autistic spaces get really, really caught up in presenting allistic people as bad and ignoring intersectional politics, thinking hte issue is that allistic people are assholes and not that we're up against a neuronormative society and medical industrial complex that views our pathologization as a new market to expand to and colonize (and that this tendency hurts lots of allistic people as well - such as black prisoners getting longer sentences after being diagnosed as sociopaths). See also: every marginalized group attempting to define their own oppression as the root of all oppression and eveyrthing else as simply downstream of their own - racism being defined as a form of sexism as criticized by black feminists, or disabled people definng disability as the root form of all bigotry through which all other bigotries are expressed, and the inevitable conclusion taht gets drawn from that that my particular oppression therefore ought to be prioritized because it'll fix everyone else's problem by definition.
On the discord there was a pretty long stretch of SWERF shit getitng posted that really only came to stop when someone who actually had been trafficked and also did voluntary sex work told people to fuck off. That is the point at which I think there's more of a need to criticize a space being potentially too isolated from things people find discomforting, it does lend itself to that kind of uncriticized perspective that can make one group actively harmful to another because they're developing their politics without needing to consider anyone else's situation. Which, y'know, results in shit like white queers on 196 yelling at black queers for daring to complain about #SayHerName getting used for a pretty white trans girl and completely overshadowing the many black and indigenous women whose murders were going completely unreported on, as had been the hashtag's purpose for years. It's my safe space and I don't have to share it sorta shit.
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Being ace isn't just about being sex repulsed! It's a spectrum too, and some are, but it's not a uniform thing.
I wouldn't even say I'm uncomfortable with the topic in discussions, i just don't really have a lot to contribute. That said also I haven't had a great experience in some irl queer spaces because I just don't fit in.
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