• deadbergeron [he/him,they/them]
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    3 years ago

    i see shit like this and am just amazed. Like, this isn't even a "before I was a leftist" opinion. This is like the most basic political opinion i can ever remember having. Like, as soon as I was able to have a coherent thought, as soon as I had a child's understanding of how the world works, a literal child's understanding of poverty, I was able to say "maybe people shouldn't live in poverty. " but not only is the above picture an opinion, but a POPULAR opinion. Fucking disgusting

    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      a literal child’s understanding of poverty, I was able to say "maybe people shouldn’t live in poverty. "

      I think this is really common, and one of the most horrible things about modern education is that we scrub this type of thinking out of kids' heads. "Why can't everyone just have a house?" "AcKcHyUaLlY if we tried to give everyone a house nobody would get a house because psuedoscientific econ 101 mumbo jumbo."

      • TheOldRazzleDazzle [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Akshtually, did you ever hear of the tragedy of the commonsth? I thought not. Itsh not a shtory the liberalsth would tell you.

        :force-choke-1: :force-choke-2:

    • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I really want to believe that this is mostly due to lifelong propaganda, and not a conclusion people just reach on their own

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        People have the thought that no one should live in poverty, then, in seeking answers, they're told that poverty is necessary and they believe that is the educated opinion.

        • SoyViking [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          I remember my teacher in school saying that "they tried to give some families a house with everything" but "it didn't work". Part of the propaganda we're taught is that just giving people things they need is a kind of hubris. Trying to circumvent the moral way to get things will somehow be punished.

          • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            "you see, because they didn't work for it, the house rejected them. It changed the locks and called the police because the house felt that they didn't deserve to live inside it"

            • SoyViking [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              "Karmatalism" - the belief that the universe will know if you get something nice you didn't work hard for (ie. through inheritance or ownership) and punish you and the people who gave you the nice stuff for trying to cheat.

              Closely related to "real existing utopianism", the belief that we already line in the best of all possible worlds and that any attempt of improving the state of the world will inevitably end in tragedy.

      • deadbergeron [he/him,they/them]
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        3 years ago

        I tell myself it's the propaganda machine, it's material interests, it's capitalist realism, it's this or that, but at the end of the day I just don't understand how someone can not only think this, but accept it as truth. I've been subjected to the propaganda machine as bad as anybody, I've lived under capitalist realism my whole life, the material interests of my class position should be to support capitalism, yet why was I able to avoid being coerced into this way of thinking, when so many of my peers were not? I mean I look and find possible reasons, but at the end of the day I just can't understand how someone can allow themselves to become so completely devoid of humanity in this manner, and say without any hint of irony, I believe some people deserve to die.

    • content_nausea_ [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Same I remember growing up in poverty and when our electricity, water, or gas would get off I remember thinking no one deserved this. Wasn’t even politically aware at the time. These people really do hate poor people.