At some point after 2008, I want to say around 2010 or 2012, Hollywood started putting China in their movies more. The ones that stick out to me are Transformers (the first one with Wahlberg), The Martian, Avengers 2, Looper. There are more.
I know Disney tried really hard with Mulan but failed. There was that big Chinese-produced movie with Matt Damon, no idea how well that did.
When do you think this thing will stop and go the other way? At some point Hollywood libs are going to fall in line. When will they give up on China as a market and make money off not only ignoring their market but also insulting their market? I can see a big return of the 80s action movie aesthetic with Chinese bad guys and advanced foreign invaders.
why would they give up on the chinese market? are chinese audiences going to stop watching american movies? are they going to stop being profit-seeking enterprises? is the US government gonna impose sanctions on companies that do any business in china for some reason?
The other way to see this is that Hollywood is going to have to pander even harder to get thos precious Yuans they want from Chinese audiences.
China's box office market is now larger than America's. It'd be more economically rational to decouple from the US than China, if push came to shove.
Realistically, most studios would probably just reincorporate in Canada and sell to both.
There was some Ted Cruz / Ocasio-Cortez sponsored bill to ban Hollywood from making certain movies with Chinese support or something like that which was probably designed to do this but I doubt that went anywhere. Here it is, it's specifically about Hollywood movies being "censored" (edited) for China: https://deadline.com/2020/05/ted-cruz-china-hollywood-1202941024/
Holy shit that law is literally "no government support if China gets to vet our propaganda."
You can CGI some jet fighters, but you can't CGI a billion consumers into existence.
Akshully all Chinese are CG and paid actors because nobody could possibly be content and optimistic without the trappings of liberal democracy!
There was some Ted Cruz / Ocasio-Cortez sponsored bill
What did AOC have to do with this? She was not mentioned in the article and I did not see any other reference to her supporting the bill.
It doesn't look like she has anything to do with this. Found this paragraph in another article about it though and it's sweet:
Also, the carrot of government funding is just too remote to entice many takers, most say.
Losing U.S. government support would likely only be a deal breaker for select military-focused titles — like “Top Gun 2” or 2013’s “Lone Survivor” — that bank on the military connections and access to assets like fighter planes for credibility with their target audience.
“If you force Hollywood studios to choose between U.S. government support and Chinese money, of course they will choose the latter. And that means in the future, there will be more movies made with Chinese money and without U.S. government involvement,” notes Philip Fang, a sociologist at Northwestern focused on U.S.-China film cooperation.
Lol. Threatening to withold government funding and the execs are just like "you already do unless it's literally military propaganda".
Just from memory I thought she supported some bill against China relating to movies. Maybe I'm getting it mixed up with another bill relating to Hong Kong or something. It could have just been that she tweeted about it.
When do you think this thing will stop and go the other way?
I think you may see more mainstream movies that are critical of China, but I doubt you will see it major franchise movies. It will likely be the artsy movies that are also intended to make some money.
When will they give up on China as a market and make money off not only ignoring their market but also insulting their market?
As long as China exists as a market (I do not see why it would cease to be), I do not think it will be ignored and it will be pandered to, be it involvement from local performers or industry creators or co-production with local studios.
Something else to remember is that, even if a movie is released by a United States studio with a largely American-based cast and crew, there may be Chinese investment. This could be Chinese studios being involved in the production or Chinese-based individuals, organizations or even their government having a stake in the studio proper.
For example, China Film, owned by the government, has had involvement in the following movies: Furious 7, Pixels, Warcraft, The Great Wall and The Fate of the Furious. Each of these were released by Universal, with the exception of Pixels, which was released by Sony. There is also Alibaba Pictures, owned by Alibaba Group. They have had involvement in Mission: Impossible - Rogue Nation, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows, Star Trek Beyond and Mission: Impossible - Fallout, all of which were released by Paramount. Additionally, Alibaba is a partner in Amblin Partners, the owner of Amblin and DreamWorks (not to be confused with DreamWorks Animation).
The interesting thing (I guess) is that there is a cap on the amount of American movies that can be shown in movie theaters in China. So years where the China "pandering" was the most obvious across the most amount of big US movies were the years where competition was highest.
I believe that internally, China has made some changes in how things are allowed to be marketed and are obviously beefing up funds/marketing for domestically made movies. Why ban "Western" movies when you can get your population to not want to even see them in the first place? Genius move, honestly.
They say more and more Chinese citizens have a poorer and poorer view of western culture
If only Avengers: Endgame was screened in Beijing, then they'd see how great we are! Stupid anti-fun commie bastards.
