At some point after 2008, I want to say around 2010 or 2012, Hollywood started putting China in their movies more. The ones that stick out to me are Transformers (the first one with Wahlberg), The Martian, Avengers 2, Looper. There are more.

I know Disney tried really hard with Mulan but failed. There was that big Chinese-produced movie with Matt Damon, no idea how well that did.

When do you think this thing will stop and go the other way? At some point Hollywood libs are going to fall in line. When will they give up on China as a market and make money off not only ignoring their market but also insulting their market? I can see a big return of the 80s action movie aesthetic with Chinese bad guys and advanced foreign invaders.

  • blobjim [he/him]
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    There was some Ted Cruz / Ocasio-Cortez sponsored bill to ban Hollywood from making certain movies with Chinese support or something like that which was probably designed to do this but I doubt that went anywhere. Here it is, it's specifically about Hollywood movies being "censored" (edited) for China: https://deadline.com/2020/05/ted-cruz-china-hollywood-1202941024/

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Holy shit that law is literally "no government support if China gets to vet our propaganda."

        • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          You can CGI some jet fighters, but you can't CGI a billion consumers into existence.

          • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Akshully all Chinese are CG and paid actors because nobody could possibly be content and optimistic without the trappings of liberal democracy!

    • Ryan_Holman [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      There was some Ted Cruz / Ocasio-Cortez sponsored bill

      What did AOC have to do with this? She was not mentioned in the article and I did not see any other reference to her supporting the bill.

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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        It doesn't look like she has anything to do with this. Found this paragraph in another article about it though and it's sweet:

        Also, the carrot of government funding is just too remote to entice many takers, most say.

        Losing U.S. government support would likely only be a deal breaker for select military-focused titles — like “Top Gun 2” or 2013’s “Lone Survivor” — that bank on the military connections and access to assets like fighter planes for credibility with their target audience.

        “If you force Hollywood studios to choose between U.S. government support and Chinese money, of course they will choose the latter. And that means in the future, there will be more movies made with Chinese money and without U.S. government involvement,” notes Philip Fang, a sociologist at Northwestern focused on U.S.-China film cooperation.

        Lol. Threatening to withold government funding and the execs are just like "you already do unless it's literally military propaganda".

      • blobjim [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Just from memory I thought she supported some bill against China relating to movies. Maybe I'm getting it mixed up with another bill relating to Hong Kong or something. It could have just been that she tweeted about it.

        • Ryan_Holman [he/him]
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          I know that she was critical of China's policies towards Hong Kong.