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tweet by amtrak ben: i think we should build high speed rail next to freeways only because it would make drivers feel like complete losers all the time
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That works. The local L trains running along side the highway in Chicago got me, seeing 5 trains roll by while barley moving in bumper to bumper gave me the final push to covert to public transit
The number of people I've met who will never take Amtrak again because they saw one delay, but will sit in gridlock for an hour each way to/from work to go 10 miles without blinking an eye drives me batty
There actually was a transportation agency that had an ad campaign oriented around this idea. Basically people in the cars saw the train going by so fast and felt jealous because they were stuck in their cars.
Anyone remember what agency put this on?
They did this where I am from, but the high speed trains cost way too much yo be worth it and they never travel at their full speed and are about the same speed as a car.
You also HAVE to drive to the train station. And by the time you wait for the train and pay for parking, you might as well just drive into the city.
In fact, it hardly saves time or money and often ends up being about the same cost and time.
Also the last train leaves the city shortly after the work day ends. So if you work late or get held up, then you are not going home or paying a crap ton for a Uber home.
It’s just fucked and I hate that it is that way.
In California, any time I have seen an Amtrack train going the same direction as me on the freeway, I was passing it, never the other way around.
America's rail is almost all low-speed or higher-speed (125-150 mph, but much lower average speeds)
For comparison, China has built ~20,000 miles of HSR, much of which goes up to 220, some lines averaging 200 mph.
That problem is, it's not up to us when to build these rails and where.
The states need their car registration $$$
Why do you want to make people feel bad on purpose?
Carbrains go out of their way to make pedestrians and cyclists feel bad on purpose, and society subsidizes their planet-burning nonsense and needlessly plans cities around humoring their personalized pollution machines.
Fuck 'em.
You are stuck on twitter mentality where everyone is radicalized and fights the other side.
You describe people as monsters. Go outside, touch grass, no one kills anyone on purpose. System is problem, not
Carbrains
Go outside, touch grass, no one kills anyone on purpose.
https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/18/us/legislation-protects-drivers-injure-protesters/index.html
You live in a bubble world where you feel comfortably smug and want to talk down to other people. You are stuck on a Reddit mentality and it disgusts me.
Also, since you smugly (and deepy ignorantly) claimed no one kills anyone on purpose because you're that high on your own farts in that bubble world of yours, here's some people that kill on purpose, a lot more than no one. The source should be liberal enough for you to not whine about "bias" either. Maybe.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/hate-incidents
I am always sussed out when I see xxxx.xxxx.xxxx unless it's lemmy.ml
https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/18/us/legislation-protects-drivers-injure-protesters/index.html
is outdated
https://www.factcheck.org/2019/07/protections-for-drivers-who-hit-protesters-didnt-pass/
except Oklahoma
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/04/22/us/oklahoma-law-drivers-protesters/index.html
You live in a bubble world where you feel comfortably smug and want to talk down to other people. You are stuck on a Reddit mentality and it disgusts me.
Its my perspective on you
Also, since you smugly (and deepy ignorantly) claimed no one kills anyone on purpose because you’re that high on your own farts in that bubble world of yours, here’s some people that kill on purpose, a lot more than no one. The source should be liberal enough for you to not whine about “bias” either. Maybe. https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/hate-incidents
Its easy to find on internet people killing in US.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=shooting&t=fpas&iar=news&ia=news
Ultimate measure of safety is percieved personal safety. I have to admit I didnt know situation in US is so bad with over half of people feeling unsafe
https://www.newsweek.com/young-americans-most-likely-feel-unsafe-daily-basis-poll-1728660
As I live in a country where 13% feel unsafe
https://www.britishpoles.uk/do-poles-feel-safe-in-their-country/
Realistically speaking ordinary people probably dont encounter agression on daily basis as they run errand, but violent acts happen more often so more people feel unsafe. Ordinary people dont kill for sure
Carbrains go out of their way to make pedestrians and cyclists feel bad on purpose, and society subsidizes their planet-burning nonsense and needlessly plans cities around humoring their personalized pollution machines. Fuck 'em.
I still disagree with your view of drivers on a highway
All of those words and you're still a centrist douche that is preaching "civility" to people here while being playing the part of a smug condescending asshole.
If you want a PPB presentation you're welcome to it, but you deserve no further reply. Go away.
Car brain is salty
Carbrain is a systemic issue
To encourage them to engage in better behaviors when they can
People on driving on highways drive on them either because they need to, rural public transit is non-existent, it is cheaper or long distance transit is shit. They have their reasons and seeing train flying by wont change them unless it makes a better alternative.
You two are in agreement. They want more rail built as a viable alternative to driving. The 'shame' factor is just an advertisement for a superior method.
This is just reinventing homo oeconomicus but for transportation. People aren't rational
carbrains should feel bad. constantly.
You dont want to solve any problem. You want to make people suffer
You dont want to solve any problem.
What problem are you solving by smugly standing "in the middle" and snorting up your own farts here?
I oppose the inital idea of building high speed rail line next to a highway with only goal of making drivers feel bad on purpose as I dont see shitting on a minor group of radicals a meaningful way of helping whole society
I want transportation system to be improved for people's welldom and without trying to impose any views sacrifiing quality in the process
"See these losers on train? They built 20% longer route only because they wanted to make passagers see losers on highway"
I want transportation system to be improved for people's welldom
Your persuasion method (which doesn't even matter since people here already support mass transit) is to be a smug condescending centrist douche.
It's useless. You're useless.
You are in a room where everyone already agrees that high speed rail is good.
Someone makes a (very fucking obvious) joke about how high speed rail is so good we should build them next to highways to make carbrains jealous.
You: um actually we shouldn't try to make people feel bad. Making people jealous is bad policy decision. Doing that would make the train less efficient too.
Everyone else in the room: yes we know you joyless nerd.
What problem are you solving by
build high speed rail next to freeways only because it would make drivers feel like complete losers all the time
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People suffer from not optimal train route and see it as they drive on a highway
You are seizing on a specific part of a post that was making a joke and fixating on that one thing, which is why people are dunking on you.
yes, you've figured it out. well done.
Pollution kills 9 million people annually.
"suffer"
We can do both at the same time. I got two hands.
and thousands of ceramics!
Suffer how exactly?
I am suffering because you have reminded me that I am a ding dong.
Por que no los dos
They're not people, they're drivers.
Highways are a great way to install new regional transit. Brightline West is going to link Los Angeles to Las Vegas in the median of interstate 15. That highway is a total mess on weekends and this new line is expected to drastically reduce traffic with big convenience wins given its average speed of 101mph/165kph. And the project is funding wildlife overpasses and other habitat improvements.
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