Libs won't care though

  • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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    The US is truly out of ideas. The basic reality is that China is a rapidly developing nation with immense productive capacity, and four times the US population. As development reaches parity with the US, that means China will be doing four times as much production, four times as much research, four times as much culture. The only way to stop the rise of China is to embark in a futile apocalyptic conflict. The best shit the ghouls can come up with is "what if we had one billion Americans," or what if we work the plebians even harder so we can have an even bigger pile of pointy sticks.

    The rational conclusion is acceptance. The Great Satan has had a good run as far as empires and world systems go, but its shortsightedness and its reluctance to reform has doomed it. You cannot intentionally keep masses of people impoverished domestically and under the boot globally and expect to be more productive than a social system which aims to lift as many people as possible to self-actualization. No amount of prisons or guns will be able to build what a society of empowered people can build.

    And no, China isn't perfect. They aren't the fully automated luxury gay space communist utopia we're dreaming of, but at this stage of history they appear to be much less hindered by a recalcitrant dogma which discards the notion of socialism outright - and that's all it will take to blow this house of cards over.

    • halfpipe [they/them]
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      In the past year we ignored the pandemic while printing 10+ trillion dollars, 1/4th all circulating USD, just to prop the stock market back up. China spent that year continuing the largest infrastructure expansion in human history while also managing a pandemic.

      China has built tens of thousands of kilometers of high speed rail, we're still screwing around with a 170 mile test track in California that is billions overbudget.

      The US spent more on the failed F-35 jet than China did on the entire Belt and Road program.

      I could go on for a long time, but I think those three comparisons are all you need to make up your mind about which of these two countries has a future. The US is going nowhere good anytime soon.

      • Randomdog [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Yeah don't forget the golden rule of "nothing good can ever happen"

    • stigsbandit34z [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      am I crazy if I think that sounds like some kind of "soft" white nationalism?

      If trump said the same thing, liberals would call him a nazi

      • Coolkidbozzy [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Biden is basically saying "keep america great" and "america first" here

      • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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        4 years ago

        This is imperialism plain and simple. The USA is a white nationalist country and spreads that and capitalism around the world through imperialism.

        • blobjim [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          It's more like white internationalist with how many fascists they've supported and their "allies" (which are also all white supremacist countries or their puppets).

      • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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        4 years ago

        am I crazy if I think that sounds like some kind of “soft” white nationalism?

        No. That's exactly what they're saying. They're saying that this white supremacist settler shithole knows what's best for the world.

        If trump said the same thing, liberals would call him a nazi

        Only if this was emphasized by their state department epistemology, as dictated by prestigious media outlets. These media outlets fully support US imperialism, so it would be more like the time Trump ordered an airstrike on Syria and CNN, MSNBC, NYT, and WaPo stumbled over themselves to declare "This is the moment Trump finally acted Presidential."

        • BeamBrain [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          the time Trump ordered an airstrike on Syria and CNN, MSNBC, NYT, and WaPo stumbled over themselves to declare “This is the moment Trump finally acted Presidential.”

          Fuck, I'd forgotten about that

          • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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            To be fair, I was an insufferable shitlib at the time, and the cognitive dissonance of that moment definitely helped shake something loose in my head. There is a limit to how far these institutions can stretch reality.

  • toledosequel [none/use name]
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    Putting this animosity and hostility in the context of US Dollar that is still by far the undisputed world currency, a US Army that is still the most powerful, and a Washington which still exerts huge political influence around the world really makes you realize how bad things are gonna get in the coming years. American elites go psychotic at even the tiniest amount of competition.

    • marxisthayaca [he/him,they/them]
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      4 years ago

      US Army that is still the most powerful

      Allegedly. It's not hard to be the most powerful opponent in the field when you are dropping heavy munitions on mountainsides while the enemy guerilla takes potshots at you.

      The U.S military's job is to dominate open space, but the diplomatic core is utterly incapable of managing its stooges to run a country in such a way that you'd call it progress.

      I'd hate to see what an actual open conflict with a country like China would do to the U.S military.

  • jilgangga [doe/deer]
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    4 years ago

    In Chinese we say: “like a praying mantis trying stop a carriage with its forelegs.” 螳臂當車

    So appropriate for Biden and co. lol. They seriously think they are US’s saviors, don’t they.

  • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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    The other day I complained about America taking over the world and my boomer coworker was like "Better them than China!"

    I don't know if it's racist shit or what but damn it's annoying how much America is allowed to get away with and the west just shrugs like 'they're our allies so we gotta be on their side" even as they killing their people with covid and poverty.

    • Randomdog [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      There's just no possible way these things could be linked

  • Phish [he/him, any]
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    4 years ago

    It's funny that Americans hear this kind of rhetoric and are totally onboard but if another world leader said it about us they'd be so shocked and incredulous.