So she doesn't even have the chance to curve ball them. SMDH why was I even surprised.
Oh yeah, next time AOC's gonna run! It'll be great! Since she's a Woman of Color, the party will have to treat her fairly. We've worked out the loophole :thumbs up:
No way, you crazy tankie. Trust me, it's going to be different this time for sure. Since she’s a Woman of Color, the party will have to treat her fairly. We’ve worked out the loophole 👍
I think the democratic party is polarizing. The progressive wing is moving left, the conservative wing is kinda staying put, and the center is shrinking.
Such is the problem with big tent parties.
Single Payer Healthcare wasn't controversial thirty years ago. The NHS wasn't controversial. China wasn't controversial.
We've run so far to the right that we don't even know what old-school "conservative" looks like anymore.
Modern day leftists can't even figure out whether they like Cuba. Sitting Congresswoman Karen Bass was doing volunteer work in Cuba thirty years ago.
None of you are leftists. You're all a bunch of fucking libs.
single payer healthcare was not a mainstream political opinion in the USA 30 years ago. not in a M4A sense. similarly, things like lgbt rights and drug reform were WAY more conservative.
the NHS may not have been controversial, but its also not America. so it doesnt pertain here.
single payer healthcare was not a mainstream political opinion in the USA 30 years ago.
The American Association of Labor Legislation (AALL) was pitched all the way back in 1916. FDR pushed the Wagner Bill, National Health Act of 1939 which became the Wagner-Murray- Dingell Bill of 1943. Truman then pitched a plan in 1945 which he continued to lobby for into the 1948 election. Finally, LBJ managed to pass Medicare in 1965, a universal plan specific to the elderly.
This has been a mainstream proposal for over a century.
LOL, what a total shit show, we're really moving the party left guys.
What are the odds of armed federal agents in full riot gear at the convention in case the Bernie delegates get uppity.
the whole shit is gonna be on zoom and AOC isnt the type to throw curve balls anyway
To be fair, while the defeats of Jezza and Bernie have left me very aware of the limits of electoralism, I don’t think it’s a battle that we should just surrender. We should never give up the fight on any front.
How many times are you gonna burn your hand before you stop touching the stove
lol. they really want her to drop out of it so they can blame the bernie bros if they lose
HAHAHAHAHAHA! It just keeps getting better. Jfc they just keep selling the Proles that rope don't they?
Joke's on them, are they really gonna cut her now that she's been announced? They would want to, but it would attract a lot of attention to her if they cut her for saying like, maybe don't kill the poor.
she'd accomplish more by saying publicly that she's offended by this, refusing to speak, and speaking somewhere else instead.
Honestly, for someone who has a long career in Congress ahead of her, this wouldn't be tactful. It's better to lose this battle and win the war.
and this, kids, is why reformism doesn't work. you can't dismantle a corrupt system from within because you'll mess up your career. you can't challenge objectively evil power structures because you won't get your committee placements. by participating in the system, you are forced to abandon both radical policy and tactics.
Is she abandoning radical policies here? Or are you confusing symbolism with policy here?
tactics in the war of position are frequently symbolic, yes, but the refusal to fight is still a retreat. she cannot actually win policy - the structure of the government prevents that from being possible without severe external pressure from the lower classes. if that pressure exists, she's irrelevant - policy will pass or not depending on how threatened the ruling class feels and her vote remains fungible. in the absence of that pressure, she can only fight within the war of position for symbolic wins.
my point was that the nature of the government makes the tactical retreat necessary in order for the small position she's staked out to remain tenable but this same retreat makes her worse at the only thing she can actually accomplish.
as has been said to death, you cannot dismantle the master's house with the master's tools.
Avoiding any tactical retreat is suicide (and it's also a very fascist ethic, read Umberto Eco on how). Any politics involves working with people you disagree with to achieve your goals, there are enough alliances to make to achieve policies goals of decarceration, against the drug war, labor rights, etc. Policies that empower the working class. Without coordinating with outside pressure from said labor groups and other organizations, such aims within the system are indeed impossible, but she has the potential to do far more than just symbolic gestures.
every group you named is happily incorporated within the system. the pressure I'm talking about is like the week of insurrection prior to the passage of the Civil Rights Act or what we saw earlier this year. there's a reason every reformist policy since the CRA has failed to pass: the pols aren't the people who get it done, the revolutionary segment of the class are. the most AOC can hope to accomplish are tepid reforms that challenge no one and help very few people.
you'd have more of a point if congress were capable of passing anything more contentious than symbolic gestures right now but the only way they can do that is on matters of importance to the whole of a very divided bourgeoisie. as few items make that list - fewer every day as gulf between them grows - the NPIC, "labor" groups (really another part of the NPIC at best, entrenched business interests at worst), etc are no more capable of getting bills passed than AOC is - indeed, they've been failing to do so since the 90s.
Time is time. They wouldn't give her anything if they could. Getting to appear in the important thing is helpful. Of course they'll fight her and every other leftist every step of the way.
