I’m done with my schtick that AOC is good or bad depending on the day.

She’s taking money from young progressives who want her to primary conservative dems and giving it directly to conservative dems like Conor Lamb... lmao.

She also gave money to CIA spook Abigail spanbergler who has publicly and privately talked shit about her repeatedly... lol

I didn’t realize her descent into being awful would be this quick. Wonder what her associated orgs are doing? Will justice dems just fizzle out or be wrapped into the establishment?

Yikes all around.

        • trepeeeeeman [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          People think liz is a terf because of her buddy buddy stuff with aimee terese and ana. I dunno how this relates to aoc. also lol at hexbear basically being jimmy dore on a time delay when it comes to aoc.

          • Mrtryfe [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            also lol at hexbear basically being jimmy dore on a time delay when it comes to aoc.

            how does it feel to be this much of a lib

            • trepeeeeeman [none/use name]
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              4 years ago

              i'm not even an aoc fan. it's just hilarious to me that brie, dore, justin jackson, and all those people caught so much shit for pointing out this stuff months ago

                • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]M
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                  4 years ago

                  The entire thing was nothing more than a media spectacle and the discourse surrounding it was mind-numbing and pointless. Just media and parliamentarian opportunists blowing smoke up our asses. The handful of progressives in Congress never had any leverage to begin with. Congress votes on leadership and rules before getting down to any other business, so at best you're asking Pelosi to pinky promise to call a vote in return for a display of fealty on day one.

                  Pelosi is a fucking neoliberal hack. The machine of austerity which is literally killing us has her bloody fingerprints on the levers. If there were any leftists in Congress, they would unconditionally not vote for her. They would draw a line in the sand and make a statement, "we are not the same." Giving Pelosi the opportunity to buy their votes with an ineffectual parliamentary motion was a sign of weakness. Voting for her still even though they didn't even get what they were demanding only moreso. The only thing they accomplished is looking weak while still managing to tarnish their reputation by associating with that ghoul.

              • Mrtryfe [none/use name]
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                4 years ago

                Oh word. I thought you were going the other way about it. There is an irrational hate of Dore on here. He's got some garbage takes but the AOC stuff really wasn't one of those

        • congressbaseballfan [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          As someone who likes Liz a lot, there definitely is rhetorical evidence of her being a bit of a transphobe. at the very least she isn’t an ally.

          Terf isn’t the right word to use obviously, I was just riffing on the fact that some people apparently decided that she was a terf because she was critical about AOC :michael-laugh: