• Grownbravy [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    :geordi-yes: ”War is a fuck, america has built the roads leading it’s failure, and technology will dehumanize us”

    :geordi-no: ”What if you wanted to fuck a plant? Like, a really sexy plant? And she’s a sniper? In a bikini.”

    • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      The MGS games were always horny but it does feel like there was a shift with 4 where it became horny in more and more uncomfortable ways

      • Grownbravy [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        32 bit horny isnt the same. “Lets do a reskin of all the bosses in MGS1 but as women and with a bikini mode if you tranq them.

        Did i make up that last part?

        • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          Also they're all traumatised war orphans and fused (?) to their suits or whatever it was, I remember them not even being fully conscious or in control

          • Grownbravy [they/them]
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            4 years ago

            Well, i’m glad i didnt kill em, cause also tranq bosses was the better outcome. But i, a mostly hetero grown adult at that age felt that was too much.

            • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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              4 years ago

              That game had so many awful scenes in it, like the bit where every dude at a military briefing cranes their necks to stare at Mei-Ling's butt when she crouches to pick up something she dropped

              4 is utter dogshit, it felt like Hideo Kojima was sitting next to me and making fun of me for liking the first 3 games

                • quarantine_man [none/use name]
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                  4 years ago

                  This was also metal gear. - (To be clear, it’s supposed to be the villain, not an endorsement.)

                  god damn MGS 1 & 2 were such unbelievable games

                  I wish I could find any other games. like show me any other game with shit like the colonel A.I. speech at the end of MGS2...

                    • quarantine_man [none/use name]
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                      4 years ago

                      yeah, it's utterly amazing that these games were made at all... and I don't know if I'll ever see anything like them again. The rest of the series following (even including MGS 3) don't even come close.

                • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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                  4 years ago

                  Hot brother clone fist fighting about who is the better warrior man on a nuclear mech surrounded by fire etc.

                  What are you talking about, there's nothing sexual about shirtless fistfighting, that's just how Real Men Settle Their Differences!

                  Metal Gear Solid 1 felt markedly less self-aware and ready to poke fun at itself, Solid became a much sillier character from 2 onwards (which I approve)

              • Grownbravy [they/them]
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                4 years ago

                I forgot about that scene.

                Now i feel the wacky gravure magazine trap to get past guards wasnt the dumb joke i thought it was.

      • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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        4 years ago

        I mean, I'll say this for MGS4 and 5, Snake never climbed into a locker to jerk off in any of those like he did in MGS2

        • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          Woah dude, he just zoomed into the sexy posters making cartoony kissy noises, it was completely above board

          • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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            4 years ago

            And if you called Otacon while doing it, they made it very clear Snake was jerking off, and there was a stain on his crotch when you got out of the locker lol

            • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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              4 years ago

              there was a stain on his crotch when you got out of the locker

              Holy fuck, I've never known about this, fucking brilliant

              KOJIMA KAMI NANDESU

              Edit: I also always really liked the convo where Rose and Campbell are disgusted by Raiden enjoying being pissed on by a Russian soldier

              • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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                4 years ago

                It's been a while, but I vaguely remember Campbell being lowkey into it also?

                  • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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                    4 years ago

                    I mean, is he though?

                    I know MGS4 would later retcon it so he was, but in MGS2 they made a point of having him keep contacting you even after GW was destroyed. Like every other game in the series, MGS2 was originally envisioned as the end of MGS, and I don't think the intention at that time was for Campbell to have been an AI, just like I'm pretty sure that the support team from MGS3 wasn't originally supposed to become the Patriots.

                    • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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                      4 years ago

                      the support team from MGS3 wasn’t originally supposed to become the Patriots

                      Ugh, don't remind me- I'm still harbouring a grudge for Kojima for that one, what bullshit

                      spoiler

                      Actually he did all of the characters dirty in MGS4 (sans Snake, I actually found the rapid aging thing an interesting twist)

                      I mean, is he though?

                      That's what Snake and Otacon think, and Raiden says he's never met Campbell in person- I never assumed otherwise. Of course, Rosemary does get switched for an AI imitation near the very end but I always thought the Colonel was always intended to be an AI all the way through

                      • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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                        4 years ago

                        Oh yeah, they set it up so you'd think Campbell was an AI, but then you destroy the AI and he keeps talking. Which, don't get me wrong, he wasn't the actual Campbell either, but I always took that to mean that he wasn't the AI either- he was something else. I think that was supposed to be a big twist, but so many people were so checked out by that point that it didn't scan that way, and then they went on to retcon the twist out entirely.

      • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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        4 years ago

        i'm team NEVER BE GAME OVER and i genuinely believe that, given the development time, they would have given Quiet's storyline a much better ending. obviously not one that provided a good reason for the horniness, but a better one.

      • Grownbravy [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        “If you knew why she was dress like that, you’d understand and feel sorry for her.”

        No Kojima, I can accept Yoko Taro’s fetish fuel in games because

        he’s honest about it.

        Ngl, i am into it too

        But dont try and dress up the reason with your story when you’re already stretching my suspension of disbelief

          • Grownbravy [they/them]
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            4 years ago

            Every time i try to think how to describe sex in video games, i find myself pointing to another medium and comparing how crass that is too. But i guess kojima also wanted to say something about how sex and violence try to get engagement by being crass. They cant actually show it, and i remember MGS3 being goofy regarding the subject.

            Quiet seems strange because she was the only woman character in the game until you reach the point with the XOF soldiers just like her.

            I remember thinking the bottom to her bikini looked weird, like a thick fundoshi. So her character, to me, looked like someone presented to be the titillating character in a weird underwear. So she always looked awkward cause she still had to pose all sexy like.