:geordi-yes: ”War is a fuck, america has built the roads leading it’s failure, and technology will dehumanize us”
:geordi-no: ”What if you wanted to fuck a plant? Like, a really sexy plant? And she’s a sniper? In a bikini.”
The MGS games were always horny but it does feel like there was a shift with 4 where it became horny in more and more uncomfortable ways
32 bit horny isnt the same. “Lets do a reskin of all the bosses in MGS1 but as women and with a bikini mode if you tranq them.
Did i make up that last part?
Also they're all traumatised war orphans and fused (?) to their suits or whatever it was, I remember them not even being fully conscious or in control
Well, i’m glad i didnt kill em, cause also tranq bosses was the better outcome. But i, a mostly hetero grown adult at that age felt that was too much.
That game had so many awful scenes in it, like the bit where every dude at a military briefing cranes their necks to stare at Mei-Ling's butt when she crouches to pick up something she dropped
4 is utter dogshit, it felt like Hideo Kojima was sitting next to me and making fun of me for liking the first 3 games
This was also metal gear. - (To be clear, it’s supposed to be the villain, not an endorsement.)
god damn MGS 1 & 2 were such unbelievable games
I wish I could find any other games. like show me any other game with shit like the colonel A.I. speech at the end of MGS2...
yeah, it's utterly amazing that these games were made at all... and I don't know if I'll ever see anything like them again. The rest of the series following (even including MGS 3) don't even come close.
Hot brother clone fist fighting about who is the better warrior man on a nuclear mech surrounded by fire etc.
What are you talking about, there's nothing sexual about shirtless fistfighting, that's just how Real Men Settle Their Differences!
Metal Gear Solid 1 felt markedly less self-aware and ready to poke fun at itself, Solid became a much sillier character from 2 onwards (which I approve)
I forgot about that scene.
Now i feel the wacky gravure magazine trap to get past guards wasnt the dumb joke i thought it was.
Peace Walker was the only good Metal Gear game Kojima made after 2005
Revengeance is also good but that was down to Platinum Games
I beat the game 3 times before i knew you could play monster hunter in it.
I mean, I'll say this for MGS4 and 5, Snake never climbed into a locker to jerk off in any of those like he did in MGS2
Woah dude, he just zoomed into the sexy posters making cartoony kissy noises, it was completely above board
And if you called Otacon while doing it, they made it very clear Snake was jerking off, and there was a stain on his crotch when you got out of the locker lol
there was a stain on his crotch when you got out of the locker
Holy fuck, I've never known about this, fucking brilliant
KOJIMA KAMI NANDESU
Edit: I also always really liked the convo where Rose and Campbell are disgusted by Raiden enjoying being pissed on by a Russian soldier
It's been a while, but I vaguely remember Campbell being lowkey into it also?
I mean, is he though?
I know MGS4 would later retcon it so he was, but in MGS2 they made a point of having him keep contacting you even after GW was destroyed. Like every other game in the series, MGS2 was originally envisioned as the end of MGS, and I don't think the intention at that time was for Campbell to have been an AI, just like I'm pretty sure that the support team from MGS3 wasn't originally supposed to become the Patriots.
the support team from MGS3 wasn’t originally supposed to become the Patriots
Ugh, don't remind me- I'm still harbouring a grudge for Kojima for that one, what bullshit
spoiler
Actually he did all of the characters dirty in MGS4 (sans Snake, I actually found the rapid aging thing an interesting twist)
I mean, is he though?
That's what Snake and Otacon think, and Raiden says he's never met Campbell in person- I never assumed otherwise. Of course, Rosemary does get switched for an AI imitation near the very end but I always thought the Colonel was always intended to be an AI all the way through
Oh yeah, they set it up so you'd think Campbell was an AI, but then you destroy the AI and he keeps talking. Which, don't get me wrong, he wasn't the actual Campbell either, but I always took that to mean that he wasn't the AI either- he was something else. I think that was supposed to be a big twist, but so many people were so checked out by that point that it didn't scan that way, and then they went on to retcon the twist out entirely.
i'm team NEVER BE GAME OVER and i genuinely believe that, given the development time, they would have given Quiet's storyline a much better ending. obviously not one that provided a good reason for the horniness, but a better one.
“If you knew why she was dress like that, you’d understand and feel sorry for her.”
No Kojima, I can accept Yoko Taro’s fetish fuel in games because
he’s honest about it.
Ngl, i am into it too
But dont try and dress up the reason with your story when you’re already stretching my suspension of disbelief
Every time i try to think how to describe sex in video games, i find myself pointing to another medium and comparing how crass that is too. But i guess kojima also wanted to say something about how sex and violence try to get engagement by being crass. They cant actually show it, and i remember MGS3 being goofy regarding the subject.
Quiet seems strange because she was the only woman character in the game until you reach the point with the XOF soldiers just like her.
I remember thinking the bottom to her bikini looked weird, like a thick fundoshi. So her character, to me, looked like someone presented to be the titillating character in a weird underwear. So she always looked awkward cause she still had to pose all sexy like.
As a kid I freaked out at the ability to shoot a bowl of ice cubes in MGS2 and they'd scatter across the bar and then melt in real time. It was the most mystical shit I had ever seen. I would play that part in front of adults in an attempt to impress them and no one ever cared lol
They wouldn't just melt in real time, they wrote a special algorithm so that ice cubes that were closer to other cubes would melt slower than ones that were farther away.
*smirks* uhhh of course he's not, he's Order Tiger, the Large Lord clone that took over Shady Abraham Island to secure the LIONKILL virus! It's like they let anybody on the internet these days, sheesh
I feel like in most cases when you hear about a thing your brain takes the disconnected facts and paints a broader picture than there really is.
I think though for MGS it isn't like that.
It depends. MGSV is the latest one, and the controls are easy to get used to since its like most other third person games. MGS3 is my favourite, and is the most popular of the original trilogy. Then theres MGS1, which is the beginning of the 3d series, and is considered one of the best games of all time.
MGS2 is also great, but it's so much a metacommentary on the first that it's not a good starting point
Yeah, you basically need to play MGS1 for MGS2 to make sense.
So of course, MGS2 was the only one which got released for Xbox, which lead to it being the only one I played as a kid. I was very confused.
If you were to follow the series chronologically, it would go: mgs3, peace walker, mgsv, mgs1, mgs2, mgs4.
Don't do media chronologically, that's dumb. Prequels are prequels for a reason. I haven't even played these games but I'm p sure the answer is just to play the main titles in release order, like with most things.
Just go with the release order, Hideo Kojima never took the chronology or canon too seriously
As others have said, just play in release order. The story is wild and wacky at times, but MGS1 is very straightforward, and MGS2 only really gets confusing if you're trying to understand the meta-narrative (you can always watch the SuperBunnyhop video for that if you want). MGS3 is also super fun and the most inward-focused of the original three, so lots of story and lore abounds for characters from the last two games.
I'm going to recommend the opposite of everyone else. I tried to get into the mgs series when 5 came out, and had a tough time.
I tried starting with MGS1, but that game is so old now I had a really tough time controlling it and it was filled with odd segments where it expects a lot more from you than many modern games. I burnt out on it and had to come back to it after playing some others to really appreciate it. If you start with 1, use a guide.
Ground Zeros is neat, but it's basically a demo for 5 which is kinda boring? I tried 5 next because it was the newest game but it's just one huge open world stealth shooter and feels empty otherwise. Its quite long and I got just over a third of the way through the main story before burning out due to lack of interest.
For me, third try was the charm and I emulated peace walker which I really enjoyed. It's shorter and simpler than 5, while not being quite as old as 1, and maintains a decent story focused on imperialism and the use of MICs and the like. It also takes place immediately before Ground Zeros so it was cool to see familiar characters and work towards where you will start in 5. I played 3 immediately after Peace Walker and enjoyed it for similar reasons. It was more concise, not ancient, and had a more compelling story.
TLDR: I recommend trying the games chronologically, as it helped me get invested with the series enough to work through the jank of the old games and the unpolished bloat of 5.
play them in release order starting with MGS1, or with the MSX games if you like older games. idk why people sometimes suggestion playing them in chronological order as if that's going to help you understand the story better. Obviously each game changes your understanding of the previous games somewhat, but people in 1998 putting Metal Gear Solid into their Playstations didn't know who The Boss was, and that includes the people who made the game.
I remember losing my mind when I found out that Fulton Extraction is a real thing that people did
Twin Snakes was awful, but if they re-use all the audio / voice acting from the original PS1 version then I'm ok with a graphics update.
I remember playing MGS as a kid but the disc was broken so I could only play right at the Hind D fight most of the time. Somehow it worked a few times and I did get the rest of the game, but that sucked when it didn't.
MGS was one of my special interests for a looooong time. the second one i got as a child and itt completely blew my mind.
