That game had so many awful scenes in it, like the bit where every dude at a military briefing cranes their necks to stare at Mei-Ling's butt when she crouches to pick up something she dropped
4 is utter dogshit, it felt like Hideo Kojima was sitting next to me and making fun of me for liking the first 3 games
yeah, it's utterly amazing that these games were made at all... and I don't know if I'll ever see anything like them again. The rest of the series following (even including MGS 3) don't even come close.
Hot brother clone fist fighting about who is the better warrior man on a nuclear mech surrounded by fire etc.
What are you talking about, there's nothing sexual about shirtless fistfighting, that's just how Real Men Settle Their Differences!
Metal Gear Solid 1 felt markedly less self-aware and ready to poke fun at itself, Solid became a much sillier character from 2 onwards (which I approve)
And if you called Otacon while doing it, they made it very clear Snake was jerking off, and there was a stain on his crotch when you got out of the locker lol
I know MGS4 would later retcon it so he was, but in MGS2 they made a point of having him keep contacting you even after GW was destroyed. Like every other game in the series, MGS2 was originally envisioned as the end of MGS, and I don't think the intention at that time was for Campbell to have been an AI, just like I'm pretty sure that the support team from MGS3 wasn't originally supposed to become the Patriots.
the support team from MGS3 wasn’t originally supposed to become the Patriots
Ugh, don't remind me- I'm still harbouring a grudge for Kojima for that one, what bullshit
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Actually he did all of the characters dirty in MGS4 (sans Snake, I actually found the rapid aging thing an interesting twist)
I mean, is he though?
That's what Snake and Otacon think, and Raiden says he's never met Campbell in person- I never assumed otherwise. Of course, Rosemary does get switched for an AI imitation near the very end but I always thought the Colonel was always intended to be an AI all the way through
Oh yeah, they set it up so you'd think Campbell was an AI, but then you destroy the AI and he keeps talking. Which, don't get me wrong, he wasn't the actual Campbell either, but I always took that to mean that he wasn't the AI either- he was something else. I think that was supposed to be a big twist, but so many people were so checked out by that point that it didn't scan that way, and then they went on to retcon the twist out entirely.
i'm team NEVER BE GAME OVER and i genuinely believe that, given the development time, they would have given Quiet's storyline a much better ending. obviously not one that provided a good reason for the horniness, but a better one.
The MGS games were always horny but it does feel like there was a shift with 4 where it became horny in more and more uncomfortable ways
32 bit horny isnt the same. “Lets do a reskin of all the bosses in MGS1 but as women and with a bikini mode if you tranq them.
Did i make up that last part?
Also they're all traumatised war orphans and fused (?) to their suits or whatever it was, I remember them not even being fully conscious or in control
Well, i’m glad i didnt kill em, cause also tranq bosses was the better outcome. But i, a mostly hetero grown adult at that age felt that was too much.
That game had so many awful scenes in it, like the bit where every dude at a military briefing cranes their necks to stare at Mei-Ling's butt when she crouches to pick up something she dropped
4 is utter dogshit, it felt like Hideo Kojima was sitting next to me and making fun of me for liking the first 3 games
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god damn MGS 1 & 2 were such unbelievable games
I wish I could find any other games. like show me any other game with shit like the colonel A.I. speech at the end of MGS2...
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yeah, it's utterly amazing that these games were made at all... and I don't know if I'll ever see anything like them again. The rest of the series following (even including MGS 3) don't even come close.
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What are you talking about, there's nothing sexual about shirtless fistfighting, that's just how Real Men Settle Their Differences!
Metal Gear Solid 1 felt markedly less self-aware and ready to poke fun at itself, Solid became a much sillier character from 2 onwards (which I approve)
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I forgot about that scene.
Now i feel the wacky gravure magazine trap to get past guards wasnt the dumb joke i thought it was.
I'm glad to see people who also think MSG 4 was awful
Peace Walker was the only good Metal Gear game Kojima made after 2005
very sadly true
Revengeance is also good but that was down to Platinum Games
I beat the game 3 times before i knew you could play monster hunter in it.
I mean, I'll say this for MGS4 and 5, Snake never climbed into a locker to jerk off in any of those like he did in MGS2
Woah dude, he just zoomed into the sexy posters making cartoony kissy noises, it was completely above board
And if you called Otacon while doing it, they made it very clear Snake was jerking off, and there was a stain on his crotch when you got out of the locker lol
Holy fuck, I've never known about this, fucking brilliant
KOJIMA KAMI NANDESU
Edit: I also always really liked the convo where Rose and Campbell are disgusted by Raiden enjoying being pissed on by a Russian soldier
It's been a while, but I vaguely remember Campbell being lowkey into it also?
I mean, I guess he is a weird AI in that game
I mean, is he though?
I know MGS4 would later retcon it so he was, but in MGS2 they made a point of having him keep contacting you even after GW was destroyed. Like every other game in the series, MGS2 was originally envisioned as the end of MGS, and I don't think the intention at that time was for Campbell to have been an AI, just like I'm pretty sure that the support team from MGS3 wasn't originally supposed to become the Patriots.
Ugh, don't remind me- I'm still harbouring a grudge for Kojima for that one, what bullshit
spoiler
Actually he did all of the characters dirty in MGS4 (sans Snake, I actually found the rapid aging thing an interesting twist)
That's what Snake and Otacon think, and Raiden says he's never met Campbell in person- I never assumed otherwise. Of course, Rosemary does get switched for an AI imitation near the very end but I always thought the Colonel was always intended to be an AI all the way through
Oh yeah, they set it up so you'd think Campbell was an AI, but then you destroy the AI and he keeps talking. Which, don't get me wrong, he wasn't the actual Campbell either, but I always took that to mean that he wasn't the AI either- he was something else. I think that was supposed to be a big twist, but so many people were so checked out by that point that it didn't scan that way, and then they went on to retcon the twist out entirely.
I just assumed there were more AIs apart from GW
i'm team NEVER BE GAME OVER and i genuinely believe that, given the development time, they would have given Quiet's storyline a much better ending. obviously not one that provided a good reason for the horniness, but a better one.