Tesla CEO Elon Musk says that his daughter's progressive school has turned her into a communist that hates him for being rich, according to an upcoming biography.
The comic is also telling on how so many Americans (boomers at least) think communism is primarily about enforcing atheism and persecuting the religious.
If communists are not anti American, why do some of them say "death to America"? I'm genuinely curious, I've been trying to understand alternate perspectives but it is confusing reading some of the communist interactions on lemmy. Are they trying to be ironic, or are those just foreign propaganda trolls, or do some communists actually want to see a whole country burn, innocent children and all? Is it an inside joke that I just won't get because I'm a "stupid lib"?
We are anti-america, they're pointing out the irony of using the 13 stripes, referring to the original colonies, in a communist America fantasy.
Also, it's death to America, not death to Americans, i.e the military-industrial complex, exploitation of the global south, and related culture that masquerades as a country. Most people would rather that didn't mean reducing the country to ash, but revolution and dissolution of the current state.
America is the most evil entity the world has ever encountered in the history of time itself
It has done more harm to more people in more ways than any other in the history of the world, and it’s still doing it now, poisoning the future of humanity
"Death to America" doesn't refer to killing every person in America, it refers to the death of a nation-state and the ideology it's built upon.
Leftists use this term to advocate for the abolition of things like: fascist police death squads that kill disproportionately lower income and black/brown people indiscriminately and with impunity, the ending of American imperialism that immiserates the entire world while poisoning our planet, the end of neoliberal institutions (which we created) that enforce structural inequality across the entire world (like the IMF), ending nuclear holocaust and weapons proliferation, the evisceration of the bourgeois class that has plundered and profiteered off the natural resources we need to survive, etc; all of which are hallmarks of American structure.
Of course, too - to make an omelet, first you have to crack a few eggs.
no, we're definitely anti-amerikkkan, death to amerikkka, they're saying that if we created a new flag it wouldn't include any bourgeois atavisms such as the 13 settler colonial stripes. lol, is this a bit? no communist wants to see "a whole country burn, innocent children and all", that's what amerikkka does, in Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, etc., we want to see whole class of the bourgeoisie burn and their class collaborators to liberate the working class.
We don’t like Putin either, but also when centrists say stuff like that they don’t mean it and would gladly watch an entire ethnicity die just so they could feel safer. It doesn’t come off as honest.
What is a centrist to you? I don't think I am one. I've never voted for war nor ever wanted any ethnicity to die. But I don't personally have any control over what my government does.
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It got a trove of fun quips that hit capitalism more than communism. It is all projection.
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Of course most parents in capitalism working have trouble seeing their kids, too. With the added benefit of not having enough money for them to go to school properly. However the comic panel is even more fitting for UK boarding schools:
Most (UK) schools that offer boarding have three distinct models:
Full boarding (kids are at the boarding school i.e. Eton the whole year, except for potentially the holidays), Weekly boarding (kids can be at home over the weekend), Flexi-boarding (kids can be at home up to 7 times a week, but for plays and rehearsals and during exam period they stay in school)
Among the bourgeois in some places, kids go to boarding schools and only come home to see their family on the weekends. When I worked at a Taiwanese cram school, I knew a lot high school kids like this.
One of my grandmas was sent into foster care for a considerable length of time because her mother just couldn't cope with the child raising and apparently you could just do that in the 40s?
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The comic is also telling on how so many Americans (boomers at least) think communism is primarily about enforcing atheism and persecuting the religious.
Another result of the red scare from which we might not ever recover. Terminal brain poisoning
If communists are not anti American, why do some of them say "death to America"? I'm genuinely curious, I've been trying to understand alternate perspectives but it is confusing reading some of the communist interactions on lemmy. Are they trying to be ironic, or are those just foreign propaganda trolls, or do some communists actually want to see a whole country burn, innocent children and all? Is it an inside joke that I just won't get because I'm a "stupid lib"?
We are anti-america, they're pointing out the irony of using the 13 stripes, referring to the original colonies, in a communist America fantasy.
Also, it's death to America, not death to Americans, i.e the military-industrial complex, exploitation of the global south, and related culture that masquerades as a country. Most people would rather that didn't mean reducing the country to ash, but revolution and dissolution of the current state.
America is the most evil entity the world has ever encountered in the history of time itself
It has done more harm to more people in more ways than any other in the history of the world, and it’s still doing it now, poisoning the future of humanity
Death to America
"Death to America" doesn't refer to killing every person in America, it refers to the death of a nation-state and the ideology it's built upon.
Leftists use this term to advocate for the abolition of things like: fascist police death squads that kill disproportionately lower income and black/brown people indiscriminately and with impunity, the ending of American imperialism that immiserates the entire world while poisoning our planet, the end of neoliberal institutions (which we created) that enforce structural inequality across the entire world (like the IMF), ending nuclear holocaust and weapons proliferation, the evisceration of the bourgeois class that has plundered and profiteered off the natural resources we need to survive, etc; all of which are hallmarks of American structure.
Of course, too - to make an omelet, first you have to crack a few eggs.
Thanks, I do appreciate the explanation. Judging from the other responses, there are some differing opinions about it, so maybe a little of each.
Communists are very anti-America. I think fuckass was just pointing out some irony
no, we're definitely anti-amerikkkan, death to amerikkka, they're saying that if we created a new flag it wouldn't include any bourgeois atavisms such as the 13 settler colonial stripes. lol, is this a bit? no communist wants to see "a whole country burn, innocent children and all", that's what amerikkka does, in Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, etc., we want to see whole class of the bourgeoisie burn and their class collaborators to liberate the working class.
So if I say Death to Russia, everyone should know that I'm only referring to Putin and his ruling class of cronies, not the Russian people?
We don’t like Putin either, but also when centrists say stuff like that they don’t mean it and would gladly watch an entire ethnicity die just so they could feel safer. It doesn’t come off as honest.
What is a centrist to you? I don't think I am one. I've never voted for war nor ever wanted any ethnicity to die. But I don't personally have any control over what my government does.
Do you want things to change? Does your organizing or actions in politics make conservatives mad and call you a red? then youre not a centrist.
If you dont care about things and the conservatives call you a lib, youre probably a centrist.
If the good guys had won the Cold War
pmc dsa karens can't imagine a flag without 13 kkkolonies white people will literally become communists before they stop being colonizers smh
The image is clipped from a deranged papist anticommunist tract from the height of the cold war
EDIT: Specifically, this deranged papist anticommunist tract from 1961.
Lol, a working class family is forced to work to not lose their home, oh that communism!
https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2021/09/cdc-eviction-ban-housing-crisis/619960/
Love that he says "I own this home" to his wife instead of "we own it" lol
I guess that would be communism
Well spotted. The economic dependence of the patriarchal family is well shown.
It got a trove of fun quips that hit capitalism more than communism. It is all projection.
Of course most parents in capitalism working have trouble seeing their kids, too. With the added benefit of not having enough money for them to go to school properly. However the comic panel is even more fitting for UK boarding schools:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/29/upshot/single-mothers-surge-employment.html
https://nwlc.org/4-3-million-women-work-multiple-jobs-to-make-ends-meet/
Hopefully they don't mix up the letters and showed the kids the FBI letter pressuring MLK into suicide.
I agree with the FBI though: Learn all you can about communism!
Among the bourgeois in some places, kids go to boarding schools and only come home to see their family on the weekends. When I worked at a Taiwanese cram school, I knew a lot high school kids like this.
One of my grandmas was sent into foster care for a considerable length of time because her mother just couldn't cope with the child raising and apparently you could just do that in the 40s?
woke renter idpol is a distraction! /s
only good cop I've ever heard of (or one close to doing good).
so like, did he "commit suicide" or get fired?
Is that high-res enough for an emoji?
Considering it still bears a reference to the original 13 colonies it's probably not something we'd want to have and endorse
Even with upscaling it still looks kinda crusty...
Here's a better version of the same image:
Here's a different flag from the same comic book:
lmao good one
probably would only be good for baiting or annoying chuds because of it's similarity to the current flag
I suppose it could be used to represent PatSocs as well?
Patsocs are represented by the US flag plus the swastika.
It would only be good for ironic levels due to retaining the colonial stripes as the other commenters mentioned
I would go to school if this was the curriculum 🥺
Huh, based department?