• Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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    7 months ago

    People really think that Trump and 2024 fear mongering will be enough and I'm not so sure. There is a part of the population that is aware the US is blowing billions on Ukraine and Israel and hate it. There's plenty more who say they remember the economy being better under Trump and others being primed by the anti-woke propaganda. You've also got even more people who are just tuned out. They're not going to be posting on social media how the Dems have lost their vote. They're just not going to show up to vote and spend election night jerking off or something.

    That was the feeling I got while in Upstate New York last year. The average normie isn't fond of Biden and the project 2024 fear mongering isn't as effective because it mostly centers around a group of people that isn't them.

    • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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      7 months ago

      I wouldn’t be as infuriated if the democrats would just fucking choose someone else to be their candidate. Like yes, materially things won’t change. But holy shit. These lanyard removed pay like $200k to get a degree in propaganda and cannot fucking put on optics for the life of them. WHY does it HAVE to be Biden? No one fucking likes him. Are you telling me out of the tens of millions of democrats, there’s not a single 50 year old guy who can speak coherently and put on convincing lies? It HAS to be Biden? He’s the only person qualified for this job? Fucking Christ.

      • JohnBrownNote [comrade/them, des/pair]
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        7 months ago

        Are you telling me out of the tens of millions of democrats, there’s not a single 50 year old guy who can speak coherently and put on convincing lies? It HAS to be Biden? He’s the only person qualified for this job? Fucking Christ.

        leadership development is a threat to sitting power, so they don't do it.

        • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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          7 months ago

          In Soviet China, the supreme leader purges everyone who is a potential threat to his position and when he dies, there is a massive power struggle between the senior elites and ambitious outsiders

      • invo_rt [he/him]
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        7 months ago

        They're so bound by the almighty norms that they can't even keep themselves from walking into a woodchipper if the norms deem it so... unless a slightly more left social democrat gets momentum. Then everyone is fucking Machiavelli.

      • ZapataCadabra [he/him]
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        7 months ago

        Name recognition is all Biden had in 2020 and it's all he has now. Obama was an incredibly popular candidate and activated a lot of non voters (I don't have data on this). Biden got crowned because he had that Obama sheen still. Now he has the "beat Trump" clout.

        They tried to prop up several new Obamas in 2020 and it didn't work

    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      7 months ago

      The Biden/dem strategy for 2024 actually seems to be vote scolding. One, Trump will lead to fascism. Two, Bidenomics is working. If I didn't exist now and I was born 100 year after my actual birth date and I was trying to understand this era - I simply wouldn't believe this plan. They are telling voters that they if don't vote for Biden and the democrats - they're dummies, unpatriotic, and have no sense of civic duty. In any country in any period of history - has vote scolding ever worked in a major election in a democracy?

      To make it even weirder - there are normie dem voters with the same POV who also religiously vote scold.

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      Ninja edit: Also - I agree with RyanGosling. Biden is a shitty candidate that nobody wants so they should run somebody else. The least the dems could do is give voters somebody they actually might want to vote for. When it comes to the democratic party - where's their cleverness, their patriotism, and their sense of civic duty?