QUESTION OF THE WEEK: if you could force every cracker on hexbear to read one book on race/racism what would it be? what about one book in general
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ok guys the crackers on hexbear are doing to much now, i was hootin and hollering like everyone else having a grand ole time, and now i see some of them ACTULLY want to make this guy a hero or a figure head....
I think when I wake up in the morning I'll make an effort post on chapo or whatever about this. Leftists fell for the same shit in the 1920s through the 40s and Hitler talked about how easy it was to lure them in several times.
Apparently whites here on hexbear.net need a reminder of how things went down, if they learned it at all in the first place. Then there's Daryl Davis having supposedly "reforming" KKK members, who use him as a screen and call him the n-word behind his back.
While it is possible to rehabilitate reactionaries, it takes time and effort. Sometimes it takes years. Unlearning bigotry (especially racism, sexism, and queerphobia) is a lot like learning a new language. Unless you're immersed in it, you are going to struggle. Learning is immediately undone the second you leave the classroom and enter back right into your native language. People on this Norwegian owl fencing website don't seem to get it.
Okay I have a post all typed up except I can't find the fucking quote I was thinking of. It's from Hitler, Mussolini, or one of the Nazi party leaders. It's something like:
"Communists will shake your hand and welcome you into their meetings, referring to you as comrade, so long as you claim to also be a socialist."
That ring a bell for anyone?
Also France and rest of the West in the 50s until now
(Thinking about Fanon's issues with marxism specifically seeing what the French communists were supporting in Algeria)
Yeah I doubt it... Would really appreciate the effort post if you get round to it
They'll have to excuse me if I'm not lining up to worship at the alter of a guy who is most likely a Yarvin follower and throws out racist dogwhistle like DEI. You can be glad the CEO is dead, hell shit post about the luigi guy in ironic ways ...but I saw someone calling this praxis like.... Huh? Reel it in
the responses to that mod thread have me screaming. hexbear users love an opportunity for tailism i guess
Yeah, its a bit awkward to say the least. Like, sure he could have changed his views in the 2 or so years since he went mostly offline, but until I see more concrete evidence I'm not gonna be celebrating him [largely] uncritically like I see some people doing.
Hold on so because he got a bunch of people on Facebook to say yeaaaah kill that CEO.... Hes some kind of hero to be venerated? The same people RIGHT NOW that are celebrating the lowering of charges of the guy that killed the homeless guy? How much of this is "raising class consciousness " vs just bloodthirsty enthusiasm to people that slight them because the latter casts a wide net for certain people for just existing and that includes poc or lgbt folks and the enthusiasm will be just the same I promise you.
"But but for one moment the left and right agreed that a healthcare CEO was a dickhead" This wave will die down faster than the CEO got replaced and the same beckys and chads will be cheering as black folks latino folks rights continually get stripped under this administration. Fuck that CEO..... But what are we doing here
I woke up and read a few posts along the line of "why are we being critical of him?" and I'm literally fighting back not to go all
Do we not shit on MAGA communists on the regular because they espouse racist and queerphobic views? Or are they ok now becuase "at least they raise class consciousness"? Raising class consciousness without the beliefs to back them up is nothing. Or are those who uncritically support him going to be like all of the Americans that lack object permanence. We're just going to completely ignore that this is just more ammo for the right-wing populist movement in America to glom onto that increased class consciousness to gain more support? Like, gee, I wonder what other times in history right-wingers used increased class consciousness by using vaguely leftist language to gain support? Maybe they need hints???
I've said it before, if a lemm.ee or SJW poster had the kind of shit Luigi had on his twitter, we'd be dragging that hypothetical cracker 'til next sunrise; but because he's this cute likkle unassuming white twink with a winning smile, NOT A SINGLE SETTLER IN THIS HEAUX IS GONNA BAT AN EYELASH. And then the same crackers tryna uplift TEMU Gavrilo Princip wonder why I have so little faith in the Amerikan left that I don't even regard it as fucking existing. IT'S 'CAUSE I KNOW WHAT THESE CRACKERS CHEER FOR.
Im on the floor. He said temu gavrilo
temu gavrilo princep KILLED ME
Couldn't have said it better myself . Hell to give recent examples, didn't Trump and the other far right waves sweeping across nations gain a ton of prominence on the ammo of false consciousness? The dwindling material conditions being one? I see it like a lot of others on this site pointed out that his guy is a symptom of people's frustration sure. If people wanna use this as point to push leftist messaging absolutely. But all Imma say is temper expectations....
Yeah i was so confused about what people that post was talking about until i actually started browsing and saw people trying to make em a john brown-esqe folk hero.
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Ima be honest I think they should be removed. Dont really feel great about crackers being able to swoop in and fill up space in the thread just because they want to distance themselves from their own kin, despite what they say. If i wanted cracker input i would have gone somewhere else.
fair enough
Nah they should've kept that disrespectful assed Becky banned, the fuck? Ain't no fuckin way after the bullshit she tried saying to me.
the temp ban has been reissued!! I will still personally be attempting to deal with how this fucking happened in the first place!
what the fuck
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I'm so sorry. Is there any way to tell mods? This is mad inappropriate
i assure i am kicking up a storm in that mod chat. just waiting for a friendly and able admin to assist. im also trying to figure out who was the admin who unbanned her. trust, ive been on the case since yesterday evening when i saw what that anglo said to @frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml frankly i may start looking into becoming an admin so i am able to deal with situations like these.
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This what gets me.... Most people here know of critical support and all that and if it were left to that I'd have no issue. But shit getting spooky if you're taking it a step further..... Even then DM'ing someone and not respecting their boundaries. That other user Anna or something got banned it looks like. Maybe got antagonistic or so but they gave out reality checks.
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Nah I think I'm gonna DM you relentlessly because you don't think massimo from wish is all that. ![i-cant](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/acac7a6a-4ae5-48ba-af12-bf28c8e80d90.png
All I'm saying is manage expectations. The nation decided that it was too much of a compromise to have any legimitate measures to protect children in schools getting gunned down.
looks like things got spicy, but Anne was definitely speaking truth in the one thread that I was reading. Said a lot of things I was afraid to say and got their comments mass removed for it