The worksheet says the USSR was a fascist dictatorship :Stalin-bummed:

  • redthebaron [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    "stalin got 'lucky' "

    The Soviet Union paid the harshest price: though the numbers are not exact, an estimated 26 million Soviet citizens died during World War II

    • Sacred_Excrement [comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah but he signed a treaty with Nazi Germany! Ignore that Europe was treating Germany as a buffer against them (and hopeful that Germany was gonna pave over the USSR)

      • redthebaron [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        also did the americans not consider for a long time to not do anything until japan forced their hand on the matter

  • MarxMadness [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    In Communist China, the youth are made to uncritically accept lies about the regime's enemies.

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Basically everyone did. The USSR continued exporting raw material and importing weaponry until 1940 I think. FDR put a 25% terrif on German goods after Poland, but there wasn't a strict ban on relations. Companies were still allowed to continue trade with Germany, but once the war started, it was a bit difficult being that you had to do trade through a warzone.

  • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Uhm, are teachers in the US allowed to just make up whatever ridiculous shit they want and use it in class?

    • PeludoPorFavor [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      more or less. some states are better or worse than others.

      IIRC there was a textbook in the south that was like 'natives decided to leave' when the colonizers came LOL

      • HamManBad [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I think the viral photo was a (horrifyingly recent) Canadian textbook, if that's what you're referring to. Though I wouldn't doubt it also happening in the south.

        • Chapo0114 [comrade/them, he/him]
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          4 years ago

          No shit, I was taught till middle school that the natives made room for and welcomed the European immigrants. Then when we learned about the Trail of Tears I was like, what? A good state history teacher in 8th grade told us all the ugliness involving the origins of black americans, including stressing the Civil War being about slavery, and a good US history teacher in high school cleared up the rest of the internal white-washing, native relations and Japanese internment camps among them.

          If not for those two, I'd have become an adult thinking the US did little wrong ever. Still had to undo "communism if fine in theory but bad in practice", "the USSR is evil", and "Japan had to be nuked" on my own though.

          • HamManBad [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Lol did you have to watch that "elbow room" video from schoolhouse rock? Real lebensraum shit

        • PeludoPorFavor [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Yeah I think you’re right. I agree that I would be surprised if there were similar things in the states tho

    • BoringOrganHarvester [he/him,use name]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      They get to be creative sometimes, last year my history teacher, when talking about the communist manifesto, said socialism won’t work becuase there is no inventive for people to work, and stated it as a fact

    • star_wraith [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Short answer, yes. I had a history teacher who made us all read BOTH Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead..

      • SoyViking [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Did it work or did it just make the students realise how thoroughly horrible Ayn Rand and her sociopathic ideology was?

      • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        Those are works of fiction and therefore fundamentally not history. Also aren't they like, stupid long? How did you have time for that? We didn't even have time to cover the fucking 20th century

        • LangdonAlger [any]
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          4 years ago

          In theory, the history dept chair, if brought to their attention, could counsel a colleague for teaching sloppy history. So could the admin assigned to that department. A parent could complain. In my experience, this would be chalked up to academic freedom and shrugged off to focus on "real problems." Oh, the board that accredits the school would be the real big boss to come down on this, but I don't have much experience with that

          • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            So in theory, if you were in the wrong place at the wrong time as a student, you could have been taught that Belgium started WWII by invading Portugal, and that's that?

            • LangdonAlger [any]
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              4 years ago

              There are state standards that are tested on, but it's pretty loose. It also depends on the school. I taught in a poor school in the hood, which gave me a lot of academic freedom cuz as long as my kids were actually in the classroom (not wandering the halls, not being sent to the principal's office), admin didn't care what I taught for the most part

  • glimmer_twin [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Fascism is when you defeat nazi Germany, and the more you defeat them the more fascister it is

  • SolidaritySplodarity [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    Someone was paid to create this and grade you on your ability to regurgitate it. An entire system of education was organized around your right to be taught this exact information. People fought and died so that this could happen. Be thankful, comrade.

  • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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    4 years ago

    Tump Voice: Lucky Lyin Stalin folks! Real nasty piece of work. Y'know I used to be good friends with the guy, it's true! In 1945 he invited me to his christmas party, they served canned caviar, can you believe that!?

    • Nakoichi [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      I mean those lines don't just come organically, people learn this shit from somewhere. And by somewhere I mean everywhere. This is what we are all submerged in 24/7 just by existing in the US.