The warp drive seems to be almost instantaneous in the Abrams Star Trek movies, too. In the second one, the Enterprise traveled from Klingon space to the outskirts of Earth in a matter of minutes. In Deep Space Nine, that journey took about ten days.
At that point you wonder why ships in the JJ-verse even need to have multiple crew shifts and sleeping arrangements, if they can zip to whatever planet they like in the time it takes to cook a Pop Tart.
Yeah but it always conveyed a sense of time and distance and scale and coherency. Fast-travelling like a video game kind of shits on the "trek" part of the title.
The only way it makes sense is if it's totally ineffective against shields or something like that, and the FO just happened not to have theirs powered up because they were in such a dominant position.
If I could rewrite TLJ I would completely scrap the "resistance" plot. There's literally no need for it, you could just say that they're fighting in the background and occasionally show glimpses of it while the named characters do their things.
I mean, if you want to treat start wars like it's hard sci-fi, instead of space opera or space fantasy, then there is plenty of hand wavy pseudo science you can come up with to explain why this worked in this one instance.
At the end of the day it's fucking star wars. It's fun, but it's slop too. Just stop thinking about it so much.
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The warp drive seems to be almost instantaneous in the Abrams Star Trek movies, too. In the second one, the Enterprise traveled from Klingon space to the outskirts of Earth in a matter of minutes. In Deep Space Nine, that journey took about ten days.
At that point you wonder why ships in the JJ-verse even need to have multiple crew shifts and sleeping arrangements, if they can zip to whatever planet they like in the time it takes to cook a Pop Tart.
It's a dumb fun movie and you just need to stop nerding out over things like that. Star Trek was never hard sci-fi, never was.
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Yeah, but all the movies tend to feature more or less instant travel, even the old ones
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Yeah but it always conveyed a sense of time and distance and scale and coherency. Fast-travelling like a video game kind of shits on the "trek" part of the title.
That one isn't even on Abrams, that's all at Johnson's feet.
I'm a TLJ apologist but even I got taken out by how well the hyperspace ram worked. It immediately raised so many worldbuilding questions
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The only way it makes sense is if it's totally ineffective against shields or something like that, and the FO just happened not to have theirs powered up because they were in such a dominant position.
If I could rewrite TLJ I would completely scrap the "resistance" plot. There's literally no need for it, you could just say that they're fighting in the background and occasionally show glimpses of it while the named characters do their things.
I mean, if you want to treat start wars like it's hard sci-fi, instead of space opera or space fantasy, then there is plenty of hand wavy pseudo science you can come up with to explain why this worked in this one instance.
At the end of the day it's fucking star wars. It's fun, but it's slop too. Just stop thinking about it so much.
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I know it's all subjective, but I thoroughly enjoyed the last Jedi. I thought the ramming scene was spectacular