I remember freaks getting bent out of shape over TLJ having an asian woman and a woman with pink hair. In a galaxy with aliens with squid tentacles for a face, an asian women just breaks my immersion.
To be mildly fair her character was basically to be the Girlboss General (tm), and her entire plan was "drive straight until we run out of gas and then I dunno".
Fuck the chuds though. These movies sucked but because they were cheap slop, not because of WOMEN or something
Yeah one of the worst executed characters Ive ever seen, like just comically hilarious levels of writing yourself into a corner for no reason
True, but her being poorly written was one of the main plot points lol
Yeah it sucks to hate the same thing as chuds but for non-psychotic reasons.
The warp drive seems to be almost instantaneous in the Abrams Star Trek movies, too. In the second one, the Enterprise traveled from Klingon space to the outskirts of Earth in a matter of minutes. In Deep Space Nine, that journey took about ten days.
At that point you wonder why ships in the JJ-verse even need to have multiple crew shifts and sleeping arrangements, if they can zip to whatever planet they like in the time it takes to cook a Pop Tart.
It's a dumb fun movie and you just need to stop nerding out over things like that. Star Trek was never hard sci-fi, never was.
Yeah, but all the movies tend to feature more or less instant travel, even the old ones
Yeah but it always conveyed a sense of time and distance and scale and coherency. Fast-travelling like a video game kind of shits on the "trek" part of the title.
That one isn't even on Abrams, that's all at Johnson's feet.
I'm a TLJ apologist but even I got taken out by how well the hyperspace ram worked. It immediately raised so many worldbuilding questions
The only way it makes sense is if it's totally ineffective against shields or something like that, and the FO just happened not to have theirs powered up because they were in such a dominant position.
If I could rewrite TLJ I would completely scrap the "resistance" plot. There's literally no need for it, you could just say that they're fighting in the background and occasionally show glimpses of it while the named characters do their things.
I mean, if you want to treat start wars like it's hard sci-fi, instead of space opera or space fantasy, then there is plenty of hand wavy pseudo science you can come up with to explain why this worked in this one instance.
At the end of the day it's fucking star wars. It's fun, but it's slop too. Just stop thinking about it so much.
I know it's all subjective, but I thoroughly enjoyed the last Jedi. I thought the ramming scene was spectacular
I refuse to accept this whitewashing that the prequels were actually good. It should be a front half of a horse and then a complete clustefuck from then on out
Most of Star Wars is mid at best. Search your feelings. You know it to be true.
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I still love this stupid franchise, though
Honestly though, almost every quote people remember is from Episode 3, and I don't think that's a coincidence. That's the one I have the easiest time giving some amount of credit to. Episode 3 was still not good but I often wonder what it would have been like if we got a full prequel trilogy at that quality.
I can't argue your point about the Disney Trilogy
They were the first star wars movies I watched as a kid and I still love them
if kids could be made nostalgic for the damn Phantom Menace, they can be made nostalgic for the sequel trilogy
At least Phantom Menace was trying to do something original and coherent. It's a shit execution, but there's a story in there that doesn't suck.
It also had podracing. There should be an entire movie or series that's just about the seedy podracing competitive scene.
nah, because before you had the prequel movies and like, a show or two of starwars
now they're drowning in it like with capeshit, I doubt much of it will stick out for them
Have you seen the prequels recently? If not I'd genuinely love to hear your report after a rewatch. I think they're total crsp but as I've said before, I don't think there's 3 movies I could have more to say about. I'm not totally sure how to touch on it without going into a whole thing. I mostly like the first movie cause I like weird old Sci fi and 70s movies, empire is a great sequel and a better movie for sure, just doesn't have the personal appeal and I feel about the same as the common man about jedi. Same with the sequels except I'd point out the chemistry between the main characters in force awakens that is never used again, lot of wasted potential trial splitting the 3 mains up all the time. Force Awakens was kinda cool and at leat seemed to be going in a direction and then t wasn't but there was nothing like Dexter Jettster or Qui Gom Jinn's aeird nonsensical gambling addiction
Same. It's literally just the Ewok Line but in the 90s.
I fear the kids born in the 2010s will be saying the same about the sequels. The difference of course is that I'm objectively correct that the prequels were (not amazing, but) perfectly fine movies while the sequels were utter dogshit.
It's a mix of nostalgia, backlash to Disney, and the clone wars show retroactively semi-redeeming the prequels
I mean the ninja turtle movies were dogshit but I still loved them as a child and can enjoy watching them now.
Revenge of the Sith's good. A Phantom Menace is decent, though it has a more childish atmosphere even compared to the rest of the series. Attack of the Clones is mid.
Really, I like the plot of the prequel trilogy but the dialogue writing dropped the ball. I suppose it's also what made the movies meme masterpieces.
The dead speak! The galaxy has heard a mysterious broadcast.
That's the purple teal horse ass, right?
I maintain that if Rian Johnson had been allowed to finish the sequel trilogy, it would at least have been mid. The third film was so bad in so many ways it reached back in time and made the first two worse.
They probably could have handed it off to any of the slop directors in the Marvel stable and made a better movie than JJ Abrams.
any 1 filmaker would have made a better trilogy, literally any
The blue horse should have an immaculate dong out of nowhere for Rogue One and Andor
OT should be a full regular horse, Prequels should be a really crappy hand drawn horse's ass, sequels look about right.
They don't want you to know this, but even though so much of Star Wars was set in space, all of the movies were filmed right here on Earth. Every single shot!
"I don't like this thing, but its important to me that I have Correct Reasons to not like this thing, preferably articulated in someone else's 2 hour long video essay."
I don't mean to mock, I'm also like this, as a professional thing-not-liker.
I just think it's overrated, and Disney's trilogy (which I've not even seen all of yet lol) is probably further overrated, but I'd like to see what people are saying that isn't just reply guys circling the drain over who hates WOKE more.
i think she just wants to watch a video essay about something she cares about
Times like this, I really miss Natalie Wynn doing a two hour long, stunningly produced, long form historical break down of why its more like Star Bores.
Incredible how she recognized that her entire fan base liked and agreed with Tabby more than they liked our agreed with her actual opinions, and somehow that was not a clue that perhaps she should challenge some of her opinions.
I'd say the prequels are the blue shaded horse butt. The sequel trilogy is bad but in a normal way. I couldn't ever call myself a prequel fan I'm the traditional sense, but I am deeply deeply fascinated by them. Not cause of anything done well, but the sheer auteurship of heat was done badly and how it changed films for the worse in almost an inverse manner to the originals, Lucas's brain and his relationship to the franchise while making them and a bunch of other stuff. I don't like them but it's thebthre movies I've thought about bmthe most by a wiiiiiide margin over the last 20 years because they are just absolutely fascinating as insaid before and can't come up with a better word.
I still don't understand how the company whose other studio has been planning out their vast interconnected franchise 10+ years in advance couldn't think that maybe they should write out the general plot of a whole trilogy beforehand.
The sheer gravitas of the incompetence really pisses me off
Yeah, but in a boring corporate way, which the prequels for sure had some of but they seems down level more from the movies, George just knew he had to include toyetic things, the relationship between marketing and films wasn't alllll the way to the point of merchandise dictating the entirety of the movies and George Lucas had unfair amounts of clout. It was the artistic vision of a very boring madman and I salute that at the least.
I have like, an academic interst in the prequels if anything. The content, politics, philosophy and all that and how weirdly bad it was all handled is just an endless source of interest to me. They're just so fucking weird
the artistic vision of a very boring madman
i don't think there's a better way to describe him
Episode IX's plot is so bad I feel I could write something better, and I'm not even overestimating my abilities - just insulting the writer team's.
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