Ehhh, actually not really.. I posted this before i looked into it myself (i found out through someone complaining on /r/sendinthetanks). They didn't say not to give back land, they said its not feasible to evict every settler American. on one hand, those are kind of the same thing, right? but on the other i also don't know how we could solve this
I don't understand why it's even a matter of debate. It's obviously stupid to say "well we should just take hundreds of millions of people and just move them somewhere else". It's not gonna help anyone either and I really don't think many native people really want that anyways. It's a non issue, no one half normal thinks it is something that could ever be done any more or that it is even desirable, it's never ever gonna happen so why even have a heated conversation about it? You can't fix society just by moral aphorisms.
Someone posted about trapping random cats in their neighborhood and getting them neutered/spayed, not caring if they were feral or just someone's outdoor cat, because they said outdoor cats were an environmental disaster and it wasn't leftist or moral to have one. Disaster ensued.
Highlights include one guy from I think Australia mentioning how he traps and kills feral cats because they're classified as a pest over there and several tangents into vegan discourse, especially as regards human vs animals.
Just abolish private property and allow people to live without rents. Reparations to native americans in the form of massive expansion of infrastructure and funding for projects as well as control over the parks system and expansion of native control over environmental and policing matters. Guaranteed federal representation for each tribe.
You can do a lot that isn't mass deportations and heightening of racial tensions.
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Ehhh, actually not really.. I posted this before i looked into it myself (i found out through someone complaining on /r/sendinthetanks). They didn't say not to give back land, they said its not feasible to evict every settler American. on one hand, those are kind of the same thing, right? but on the other i also don't know how we could solve this
I don't understand why it's even a matter of debate. It's obviously stupid to say "well we should just take hundreds of millions of people and just move them somewhere else". It's not gonna help anyone either and I really don't think many native people really want that anyways. It's a non issue, no one half normal thinks it is something that could ever be done any more or that it is even desirable, it's never ever gonna happen so why even have a heated conversation about it? You can't fix society just by moral aphorisms.
No, what happened was that one user said that you can't just say "give it back to the natives and send all the americans to europe" without a plan.
Which yes, it's very dumb to say that, specially without a plan.
That was also this site's first big struggle session, even before the Great Pronoun Purge or the outdoor cats incident.
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People being angry because you could put your pronouns. Not sure about the other one.
Someone posted about trapping random cats in their neighborhood and getting them neutered/spayed, not caring if they were feral or just someone's outdoor cat, because they said outdoor cats were an environmental disaster and it wasn't leftist or moral to have one. Disaster ensued.
Highlights include one guy from I think Australia mentioning how he traps and kills feral cats because they're classified as a pest over there and several tangents into vegan discourse, especially as regards human vs animals.
Just abolish private property and allow people to live without rents. Reparations to native americans in the form of massive expansion of infrastructure and funding for projects as well as control over the parks system and expansion of native control over environmental and policing matters. Guaranteed federal representation for each tribe.
You can do a lot that isn't mass deportations and heightening of racial tensions.
It's possible to evict settler Americans if we evict them into a woodchipper