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  • kristina [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    genzedong has a ton of horrible takes, after all they post on :reddit-logo:

      • kristina [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        succdem but also even more nationalist :putin-wink:

        say stalin is great but just so you can belligerently annex former soviet countries into your hegemony :putin-wink:

        • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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          3 years ago

          you gotta hand it to him though Putin does get some grade A dunks in on the West sometimes

          ...wait just getting info that you actually do not have to hand it to him

          • kristina [she/her]
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            3 years ago

            i mean sure but thats not uncommon among slavic countries, we all hate the west

            like its common for czech politicians to refer to ourselves as a european colony, its easy votes

          • kristina [she/her]
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            3 years ago

            i mean just because you have terrible lgbtq views doesnt make you not a succ. he nationalized some critical industries, so thats my point im trying to make

              • kristina [she/her]
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                3 years ago

                idk about that. nazbols at least have 'proletarian' (re: nazbols focus on their national group only and try to adapt proletarian rhetoric to help only their national group) rhetoric. putin focuses on fetishizing the might of the soviet union, which nazbols do, but he doesnt have the proletarian rhetoric

                nazbols, like nazis, also like to organize in ways similar to socialists. its part of their scheme to divert attention from socialist movements.

            • Pezevenk [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              Are you sure he nationalized? All I know is he stopped some already state owned industries from being privatized, but I also know that he did carry out other privatizations recently.

        • Pezevenk [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Putin isn't a succdem either. He's neither a dem nor a succ, although he follows a more interventionist model than neoliberalism. However just because you aren't a neolib doesn't mean you are a socdem either. There used to be a distinction even before neoliberalism.

      • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        lol glad you mentioned this because i don't check :reddit-logo: ever, that's really fucking gross

  • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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    3 years ago

    I could charitably say that they are implying Juche coaches are actually interested in fitness and wish to share that interest, whereas american coaches are simply too lazy or stupid and want a position to shout at people from. However, it's probably just the fat phobia.

    • melon_popsicle [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I think there is a lot of baseline resentment in American (perhaps even Western?) teens towards gym teachers and coaches. The punchline "how can a gym teacher teach health and physical education if they themselves are unhealthy?" is incredibly common. My own gym teachers were various combinations of lifetime smokers, overweight, bullies, and sexual harassers of 13 yr old girls. As a teen looking to rebel against authority calling out these basic hypocrisies can feel empowering. If we add on the complicated nature of self-image and health and the way that gym classes publicly display bodies in changing rooms and athletic abilities in sports, then it starts to make sense why the out-of-shape gym teacher and the environment thay can come to embody is such a target of hatred.

      • NaturalsNotInIt [any]
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        3 years ago

        NCAA football is barbaric, and it is absolutely OK to mock a millionaire asshole whose job yelling and screaming at unpaid teenagers to stop being a pussy and crawl on the 150 degree turf.

    • sappho [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      Associating the physical appearance of fatness with the qualities of laziness or stupidity is fatphobic on its own

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        But like, if someone's as morbidly obese as the person in the photo, they're clearly not very active physically at least. Which is kinda weird if they're supposed to be a physical fitness educator (my PE coach liked harassing black kids and sitting around, he also looked like this).

        Not saying being fat is bad, just that maybe not the best person to go to for fitness advice...

          • Gusty [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Being physically active has a lot to do with weight. This is a dumb take.

          • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            I understand fat phobia when it comes to like moderate extra weight, sometimes even with diet and exercise, people are still a bit on the larger size.

            But with situations like the one in the picture it's crossed a line into visibly and clearly unhealthy. Shaming the person for it is pointless, but pretending like they're healthy is crazy.

  • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    We trying to start another struggle session? As a fat person myself: being fat is inherently bad. Yeah we shouldn't discriminate based on weight, but making fun of some chud football coach doesn't matter.

    • RION [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      I remember you from the HAES thread a while ago. Still agree with this, although we should be cognizant of how making fun of people we don't like based on appearance affects comrades with similar appearances. There's that great image of the reflected lightbeam related to this that I was trying to find but oh well

      • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Yes, and I will explain. It's unhealthy in many ways and it leads to a feedback loop of not moving enough, therefore getting fatter, therefore you move less, and so on.

          • disco [any]
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            3 years ago

            you burn like a max of 10 calories a day working out

            Why are you just outright posting misinformation like this.

              • disco [any]
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                3 years ago

                I think you maybe are missing another key fact which is if you exercise regularly it will raise your resting metabolism. Also, if you build muscle, it takes more calories to maintain that muscle than it does to maintain an equal weight of fat, so as you build muscle your body will burn more calories, raising your resting metabolism even further.

                  • disco [any]
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                    3 years ago

                    Time to join us in the Swoletariat, brother.

                      • disco [any]
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                        3 years ago

                        Well let me tell you this. I have gained 20 lbs of muscle in the last year, and I look exactly the same. Muscle is much denser than fat, so you can actually put on a lot of muscle, while staying the same size, or even shrinking.

                        At the very least, I would encourage some cardio because it's the best thing you can do for your overall health, and it can also help if you need to run from the cops.

          • StaticDreams [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            The latest and greatest in "NO MOM I DON'T WANT TO GO OUTSIDE AND PLAY!" posting.

            Exercise you lazy dingbats.

          • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            You also don't lose weight by laying around all day. You lose weight by using more calories than you consume, and laying around doesn't use very many calories.

            Plus, diet can easily be part of the same feedback loop. I guess I didn't really state the mental health aspect, but the less you move around the worse on your mental health. And what's a pretty common way people cope with mental health problems like depression? Food. Exercise could help mentally but oh no you're too fat and depressed and exercising is a major pain to start doing both physically and mentally. I've lived this for years, I still live it even though I've managed to lose some weight. It's a horrible loop.

            • PurrLure [she/her]
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              3 years ago

              the less you move around the worse on your mental health. And what’s a pretty common way people cope with mental health problems like depression? Food. Exercise could help mentally but oh no you’re too fat and depressed and exercising is a major pain to start doing both physically and mentally.

              That happened to me for a few years after college and then a bit during covid. Shit sucks and it's a really easy spiral to go down when fast food is so cheap. :deeper-sadness:

              • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                I didn't say it was a perfect indicator. I said being fat is inherently unhealthy, with one example being it leads to a drop in exercise, which leads to physical and mental problems, which leads to less exercise and more weight.

                  • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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                    3 years ago

                    just… eat less

                    Yeah because that's so easy. Again, weight -> less exercise -> worse mental health, worse physical health -> food to cope, less exercise -> more weight -> repeat. I'm not saying people get fat because of a lack of exercise, I'm saying it's a feedback loop that makes your life worse and worse.

                    I was just saying that how heavy you are has very little to do with actual fitness. Sure, it can make you more inclined to not exercise, but that’s a huuuuuge reach.

                    It literally makes it physically harder to exercise...

                      • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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                        3 years ago

                        No. The harder exercise is, the less you exercise. This isn't lifting a slightly bigger weight or running a little further. At one point I would get a pain in my diaphragm after walking for just like 5 minutes. When that's the case you tend to just not try at all.

                  • Gkalaitza [he/him]
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                    3 years ago

                    eat less than your burning by laying around all day.

                    thats a very restricting amount of food tbh, exercizing giving you more leeway to still eat satisfactory and lose weight

          • Gkalaitza [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            You lose weight by taking in less calories than you burn and working out is an amazing way of increasing the calories you burn thus making way easier to lose weight while eating normal amounts. Dont give people bad advice. For an overweight person trying to lose weight even walking a couple of km per day will make an huge difference and burn hundreds of calories + the positive feedback loop of energy and hormones you get by actualy doing even mild excersize

              • Gkalaitza [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                I mean OF COURSE eating is the primary and most important thing. That doesnt mean excersize isnt a great tool to use for weight loss. And especially for overweight people that want to not just lose weight but feel more healthy and able with their bodies ,which comes with losing wieght but is greatly magnified when you lose weight while doing som excersize. And its easpecially helpfull if you dont want to reduce your food by significant amounts or change big things in your diet, which is something that losing weight through only diet includes. And the closer you get to your goal , the more intensely you can work out and the more you can eat while still losing weight. Of course there are time constraints but the question is for 40minutes to an hour a day, not 10.

                You lose 1kg of weight by burning up about 7k more calories than you intake. If someone is overweight and mostly static in their bodyweight it means that they more or less on average are in a caloric balance. 40 minutes of fast walking a day burns upwards of 230 calories for an overweight person. So that person can with no changes in their diet still lose an aditional 1kg a month just from that 40 minutes a day excersize that of course wont built muscle, maybe only some the first month. Small adjustments in diet can make it 2kg a month. Its hugely important and makes a difference, especially for people that would struggle with trying to lose weight just by making drastic changes in their diet. And thats beyond all the other objective benifits that

              • RION [she/her]
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                3 years ago

                It's true that the exercise doesn't burn too many calories by itself, except if you go really really hard. Two things, however:

                1. Even if it isn't much, the calories lost can help over a longer timescale. If adding in even just a little exercise brings me to a 100 calorie deficit, that stacks up over time. And more importantly, you're not gaining weight and exacerbating the issues. That's something I've been trying to get myself to appreciate - even if I'm not losing weight at the clip I'd like to, at least I'm (hopefully) not going in the other direction.
                2. The bigger benefit is an increase in muscle mass. Muscle burns more calories at rest than fat, increasing your Basal Metabolic Rate. All other things being equal, exercising to build muscle will result in more calories burned, and more weight lost.

                Of course, everything doesn't happen in a vacuum, and compensating for exercise with increased food intake can stifle progress. But even if diet is the lion's share of the effort, exercise is still important.

  • opposide [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Juche is based and so is body positivity

    Could have just posted the chad Juche volleyball coach alone

  • Kanna [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Reddit is horribly fatphobic. If you try to call it out, no matter how reasonable you are, you'll always be downvoted into oblivion

      • Kanna [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        Yeah that's about the reaction I expected. Your second comment isn't downvoted just yet

      • Vncredleader
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        3 years ago

        That sucks. I try to ignore that kind of shit cause people will always try and defend fat jokes in which "fat person is bad that's why they are fast" with the fact that obesity is unhealthy. I get it, but for the love of god people have no tact

  • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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    3 years ago

    Yeah, its a huge problem on most reddit left subreddits I visit, I think dankleft removes it when it happens at least but its very common to see in the new tab.

    • Barabas [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Hasan Piker is often used for these kinds of things. See, our twitch personality is hotter than your twitch personality, hence we are better.

      • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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        3 years ago

        Hot take, being like a buff dude with facial hair is the most boring kind of hot you can be, we can and should do better.

        Not trying to diss any comrades who are buff dudes with beards cause like, you're still in the hot zone of society but theres other ways to be hot and we should meme about them.

        • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          it's a meme but growing a beard is a cheat code for 2 extra charisma and i still hold that to be mostly true in some sense. obviously not everyone needs beards but with the way fashion/grooming trends go in and out, i'd say beards are still very much in. There was a period when men were expected to have at the very least a mustache which is also pretty fuckin funny to me. At one point too having a beard meant you didn't work a corporate or retail type job but that idea is long gone.

          • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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            3 years ago

            Beards instantly make any amount of hair loss fine, but you cant be balding and have a mustache because then you become Dennis Rader.

            • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              for sure, that's a good point. Hair loss does run in my family and there is no way im holding on to spotty head hair, but being completely shaven is not a good look for me, so i'd absolutely keep a beard

  • ssjmarx [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    It is. GenZedong's got some fucked tendencies even when they're right.

  • acealeam [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    genzedong has been extremely bad lately. apparently yesterday they were saying they should not give land back to native Americans

      • acealeam [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Ehhh, actually not really.. I posted this before i looked into it myself (i found out through someone complaining on /r/sendinthetanks). They didn't say not to give back land, they said its not feasible to evict every settler American. on one hand, those are kind of the same thing, right? but on the other i also don't know how we could solve this

        • Pezevenk [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          I don't understand why it's even a matter of debate. It's obviously stupid to say "well we should just take hundreds of millions of people and just move them somewhere else". It's not gonna help anyone either and I really don't think many native people really want that anyways. It's a non issue, no one half normal thinks it is something that could ever be done any more or that it is even desirable, it's never ever gonna happen so why even have a heated conversation about it? You can't fix society just by moral aphorisms.

        • camaron28 [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          No, what happened was that one user said that you can't just say "give it back to the natives and send all the americans to europe" without a plan.

          Which yes, it's very dumb to say that, specially without a plan.

          • Dewot523 [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            That was also this site's first big struggle session, even before the Great Pronoun Purge or the outdoor cats incident.

              • camaron28 [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                People being angry because you could put your pronouns. Not sure about the other one.

                • Dewot523 [he/him]
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                  3 years ago

                  Someone posted about trapping random cats in their neighborhood and getting them neutered/spayed, not caring if they were feral or just someone's outdoor cat, because they said outdoor cats were an environmental disaster and it wasn't leftist or moral to have one. Disaster ensued.

                  Highlights include one guy from I think Australia mentioning how he traps and kills feral cats because they're classified as a pest over there and several tangents into vegan discourse, especially as regards human vs animals.

        • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Just abolish private property and allow people to live without rents. Reparations to native americans in the form of massive expansion of infrastructure and funding for projects as well as control over the parks system and expansion of native control over environmental and policing matters. Guaranteed federal representation for each tribe.

          You can do a lot that isn't mass deportations and heightening of racial tensions.

  • TillerMan12 [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    This is just the opposite of Ramsay's "never trust a skinny chef". Like, yeah, why would you think that a guy who very visibly is not in shape would be an effective coach?