"If you post about the My Lai massacre but not about +50k US soldiers killed by communist Vietnam then your anti-imperialism isn't intersectional enough."
If you posted about Kristallnacht and not about the bombing of Dresden then your activism is not intersectional.
If you post about the Genocide of Serb by the Ustaše but you dont mention the Barbara Pit massacre your activism is not intersectional.
If you posted about the genocide of Native Americans but you don't mention the bow and arrow attacks, your activism is not intersectional
If you posted about King Leopold's genocide but you don’t mention the attacks on settlers, your activism is not intersectional
alhough they weren't executed by getting thrown in the well like in Barbara
True but it doesn't stop the chuds from believing that so...
BTW this reminds me of the time some moron ONNED member (youth org of shitty liberal-conservative party currently in government, also ONNED? More like OWNED amirite?) was hitting on a friend of mine (which annoyed her) while also saying stupid right wing nonsense, and she handed over her phone to me. My voice is kind of deep so I can sound pretty threatening if I want to over voice messages. It was the funniest shit ever, I kept making increasingly ridiculous threats like "I'm gonna have my comrades find you and we're gonna dig out a private well specifically for you" etc and he kept taking them seriously to the point where he started threatening to sue me and to call his lawyer. Then after a while his Master (higher ranking ONNED member) who also knows my friend called her laughing and told her that the moron was whining to him that she had communists threaten him and asked him to do something. I fucking died.
Eventually I just sent him a voice message where I was dying of laughter, called him a cringeball and left it at that. At least he stopped hitting on my friend after that lol
I saw a picture of a mutilated, half-immolated Palestinian child that I wouldn't link here. I saw a video of liquid flame raining down that was claimed to be white phosphorous. I saw a video of a double tap strike on the wounded getting help.
This is what liberal Zionists support in response to Hamas launching tubes of fertilizer from their blockaded state. There is no Zionism that doesn't directly or indirectly support this behavior. I have uncritical support for Hamas until Palestine is free.
I fucking hate people who call themselves a zionist but claim Israel isnt "real" zionism, like shut the fuck up it obviously is, you cant just insist on an ideology and time that no longer exists, you're just a big fucking anarchronism that still ends up supporting ethno-supremacy.
It's hard to imagine the brutality of an ethno-supremacist regime as anything but deliberate malice. It is intentional no matter what they claim.
I see them as the more insidious and right wing version of people who claim they are "orthodox marxists" or some other variation that only read Marx, Engels and possibly a couple others who have never participated in a revolution and call all real revolutions deviations or revisionist or authoritarian, shit like that.
Like bro who does your theory exist for? Every single revolutionary or even reformist movement has left you in the dust, same as all real zionism having left these "real" zionists in the dust. They only exist to unknowningly(Or knowingly depending on how cynical you are) end up supporting the status quo with useless criticisms and a worthless ideology.
Yes they are enablers, a friendly face for the fascists, they benefit from any brutal policy and build no serious resistance to it. They still call for two state solutions and do not admit to apartheid, meanwhile the right is in power and saying "apartheid? We're not apartheid enough"
Intersectionalism is when you stop to consider the oppressor class
What's up with younger people and supporting israel? I've noticed it a lot with millennials. Okay maybe not "young" per say but still.
If you grow up in a Jewish community, it’s propagandized hard.
I’m still trying to deprogram and I have a long way to go. I typically just stay quiet when the topic comes up in leftist spaces and try to listen and live with the internal discomfort. Kind of a turning point for me was listening to an episode of Citations Needed and hearing the comparison of Israeli imperialism with US imperialism and subjugation of the native population.
This was when I realized that the reason I loved Israel and felt like everyone should be entitled to a country where they’re the majority was because I was experiencing full blown white supremacy when I was there. As a Jew, I experience a ton of privilege being white in America, but there are always othering experiences and you don’t really know the difference until you go somewhere where those things are the default.
I still love how I felt in Israel and the concept of the country that I was taught about growing up. I understand now that I’m not entitled to experience that feeling, especially not at the expense of others, and that the country I was taught about doesn’t align with reality.
Yeah I went from being basically a non-oppressed minority to being in the majority, and it's great - people just accept me, for no reason. It feels really bizarre, and I feel like I have a different, better personality in that context. But it's not remotely worth all the people who got fucking murdered here.
was it this episode?
https://citationsneeded.medium.com/episode-28-the-asymptotic-two-state-solution-part-i-e13e795ebc9d
I think so. I know it was definitely an earlier episode, I listen to new ones when they come out and go in order from oldest to newest when I’m listening in between.
I don’t think I would have been willing to listen to something that made me so uncomfortable at the time if it was coming from anyone else, but they had built a lot of trust with me from their other episodes.
my guess is a lot of it's due to the amount of money israel spends on stuff like birthright tours
Could be. I've seen some of these millennial "leftists" claim to be on the left and yet just go on to parrot state department propaganda against China and support Israel and their apartheid. I guess this is what happens when you think being anti-imperialist is a tankie position.
It's not just a meme. Reading theory is how you avoid pitfalls and supporting false causes.
It helps you lay the brickwork for better understanding of things. And this is crucial because discussion and analysis is key to fortifying your thoughts.
Those long dead authors already put the work in, take advantage.
I haven't ever really looked into it too directly myself, but everything I've heard about birthright sounds batshit and insanely manipulative
A lot of propaganda. I don't even think it intersects that much with anti-imperialism as such, Sweden is not anti-imperialist to any great extent and support of Palestine is pretty uncontroversial even among libs.
When it comes to the UK then even mealy mouthed both-sidesism is beyond the pale outside the left.
I think being told repeatedly when they were kids that Muslims are evil and dangerous is a factor
The fact that criticism of Israel was even more taboo when millenials were coming of age is probably a large factor. Even still support of Israel is a lot less common with millenials than older generations, I'd say.
