We are a space station, not a starship, so you’ll be spending a lot of time with all these delightful side characters like: bisexual nonbinary fashion lizard. hologram of Frank Sinatra. goblins. goblin comes in 3 varieties: bartender, nephew, and idiot union agitator. :rommunism:
our doctor is a twink, our commander is antifa/ maoist and the captain talks to the gods sometimes when not leading a protracted people’s war. our constable is sometimes a liquid and possibly ace. the science lady is trans and part worm. :dax-stoked:
we have many fine storylines, such as: Goblin Does A Crime, Watch The Irishman Suffer, Linear Time is A Lie, or The Horrors Of War. As you stroll along our promenade enjoying a raktajino or delicious jumja stick, watch out for our nefarious villains: Pope Karen. capitalism. clones of Jeffrey Combs. and a horny bastard reptile man who seems convinced this is actually his show. we suspect he may be possessed by demons. Have fun!
Deep Space Nine: now with Worf™! :warf-wtf: .
Me too! It’s amazing that it came out in the early 90’s. Crossing my fingers we’ll eventually get another Trek series like it.
Paramount sold TNG and DS9 as first run syndication, Voyager was on UPN and I forget about Enterprise.
I thought so but wasn't sure. We didn't have UPN in my bit of Canadatown at the time.
Still remember the promos UPN ran for Enterprise
Especially the ones that were like "This ain't your daddy's Star Trek!"
I still don't recall what was more bizarre, those ads or the episode of Voyager that was a stealth crossover with the WWE
Kinda funny since Enterprise is the closest to TOS and runs on pure dad vibes
Yeah, revisiting TOS reminded me of how profoundly horny it was
Plus Archer was definitely supposed to be a slightly more cultured version of Kirk
He's a way less cultured version of Kirk. Kirk in TOS is way less yeehaw than people seem to think
Yeah, that's why I said "supposed"
We really never get more culture out of Archer than the fact that he named his dog after one of the Three Musketeers (pretty sure it's Porthos)
Apparently the writers thought that would be enough
He never really muses on subjects in the same way Kirk did and jumps to killing quite a bit faster
I'm really enjoying their absolute disdain for T'Pol and how they feel the need to argue with her and ignore her advice when she is the only one who knows what they're doing.
She's just a green-blooded Vulcan who doesn't understand we're in space to shoot things, steal dilithium crystals from other planets and damn the consequences!
'Listen honey, you have lots of logic and that's very cute but the men are talking now." Jonathan Archer I'm every episode
"Now let's rub space lotion on each other in the black light room again"
Jesus, those scenes are just softcore that makes me feel terrible for the actress that played T'Pal
The movies and a few bits people have heard about TOS episodes are most what people think Trek is. I think you hit the nail on the head with the characterization of Kirk, he's a tactician and a slightly rutheless one.
I'm enjoying Enterprise way more this go through than others, but yeah, building the federation should have been the series long background arc like the domion in ds9. The whole series should have been about that, but he Voyager also feel on its ass regarding its core concept so what's new with Rick Berman.
If you think about it, Nog is canonically the most powerful nephew in fiction
Odo definitely is not ace. He's horny as fuck for other changelings. He ditches all of his values to bang the mortal enemy of the Alpha quadrant for dayyyyyyyyyys
On Odo potentially being ace and/or aro: Deep Space Nine’s Aromantic Love Story. It’s definitely more of a stretch, but a fun fan theory. 😁
Okay, that's a fine article, but I don't see anything here about the looks he gave, and the noises he made toward the Founder on DS9 when he disappeared into a 3 day long sex haze. He just wasn't that interested in banging solids.
I am now remembering how weirdly horny he got in that episode and yeah, maybe you’re right.
He just wasn’t that interested in banging solids.
And he still did a few times.
Horny -- not even once :volcel-judge:
DS9 had a bunch of really good total dick characters. Kai Winn, Garak, Gul Dukat, Brunt...all winners despite being complete assholes.
You have your work cut out for you before 2024, but I think you can do it.
The best episode of the series is certainly "In the Pale Moonlight". The Federation is losing the war, so Sisko comes up with a plan to plant a false flag on a Romulan Senator blaming the Dominion and thus bring thier badly needed ships into the war. He has to do all sorts of dirty deeds, it gets pretty dark. But every time he feels regret, there's more news about how the Federation just suffered another defeat and things are even worse. He digs himself a big hole, finally presents the forgery to the Romulan...only for him, in the series' best moment ever, to hiss "It's a faaaake! " In the commercial break that followed, I was seriously alarmed for the future of the Federation. The rest would be spoilers, but the episode is well worth watching even if you're not a DS9 fan.
In no particular order:
In the Pale Moonlight
Bar Association
It's Only a Paper Moon
Far Beyond the Stars
The Wire
The Wire
Is this the one where Garak asked Sisko "is you taking notes on a criminal fucking conspiracy?"
Trials and Tribble-ations is great and hard to describe as it is more. far more than fan service, it is actual dedication and commitment to the whole thing. It is still impressive even today and is one of the main reasons I hate Kurtzman Trek.
The cast seemed to enjoy it a lot and it is incredibly fun and I am not into TOS at all beyond appreciating that it exists. There are some memorable moments too, like the Odo/Worf talk about tribbles, fucking "mortal enemies of the Empire" is just pure nonsense but Worf makes it entirely believable imo.
The thing I like about T&T versus the new TOS-era Trek stuff is that T&T knows that TOS looks like crap, but it plays around with it and it feels very humble when showing its roots. It appreciates the old show while also poking fun at it.
Kurtzman Trek feels like it's embarrassed by the fact that Star Trek was once a show that had buttons glued to cardboard sets and blinky lights, and the ship was a cute little model that flew past the camera. It's just like "actually TOS never happened, everything was always cold blue-tinged steel and all displays and consoles were all floating holograms (don't get me started on how much I hate transparent holograms as a display and touchscreen), and everyone was zipping around at infinite speed and all ships had a shuttle contingent of 10,000 (if that shitty Season 2 finale of DIS is to be taken seriously)". Oh, and we also just have all this technology that people in the older shows said was brand new but now it's been around for a century. Riker walking into the holodeck with wonder and awe was because he was an idiot who never saw this 100-year-old technology. What a dipshit.
Even the edgiest the show got in Berman-era with ENT still had a fair amount of care put into it to show that it was still a TOS-prequel. A great deal of attention was paid to the set to make it look both futuristic for the 00s but also like a precursor to sci-fi from the 60s. DIS and PIC just look like every other shitty sci-fi property out there.
There's no love. They just treat old-Trek like something that you can harvest images, references, and iconography from.
Captain Maoist who does war crimes against a people's rebellion...
Haha That episode is admittedly not great, should I change it to “Stalinist” or “Dengist?
On Odo probably being ace and/or aro: Deep Space Nine’s Aromantic Love Story.
You're encouraging me to watch DS9 again. Well I guess it's been a few years, my boss is out, and there's nothing else going on at work...
