I mean they were actually pretty successfull and actualy not that far from taking power if they didnt go balls to the wall with some horrible massacres and just straight up stupid shit. Nothing in Mao says "just butcher a village cause you have suspicions people from it helped/backed the government and then lose your popular support" .
Applying Maoist People's War and the Mass line in different conditions has been more successfull and went further than 99% of leftist approaches post wwII. The fact that SP still had an open road to take power if they didnt completely shit the bed shows that the problem wasnt "Mao's class analysis". Put a more competent maoist revolutionary group like the Naxalites in their place and Peru probably has a successfull revolution
They definitely used revolutionary ideas developed from Mao, but that really falls under standard Marxism-Leninism with influence from Mao Zedong thought.
"Maoism" usually refers to Marxism-Leninism-Maoism which wasn't a thing before Mao died. I think the shining path were the first to call themselves Maoists
debating what maoism is should be left to actual maoists. I'm just pointing out that "maoist style revolutions since WWII" include Vietnam, China, Laos, Cambodia, Nepal, etc. all successful.
the fuck is up with them? why would this be a bad thing for the proletariat movment?
Shining Path is weird to say the very least.
They seem like they're trying to apply Mao's class analysis of China in the 1930s towards Peru today
I mean they were actually pretty successfull and actualy not that far from taking power if they didnt go balls to the wall with some horrible massacres and just straight up stupid shit. Nothing in Mao says "just butcher a village cause you have suspicions people from it helped/backed the government and then lose your popular support" .
Applying Maoist People's War and the Mass line in different conditions has been more successfull and went further than 99% of leftist approaches post wwII. The fact that SP still had an open road to take power if they didnt completely shit the bed shows that the problem wasnt "Mao's class analysis". Put a more competent maoist revolutionary group like the Naxalites in their place and Peru probably has a successfull revolution
Which Maoist groups had a successful revolution post WWII though (besides Mao)?
Seriously curious, the only ones I can think of aligned more with standard Marxism-Leninism than Marxism-Leninism-Maoism
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_war
Does that make their methods any less Maoist? Nepal and China are big obvious ones tho
They definitely used revolutionary ideas developed from Mao, but that really falls under standard Marxism-Leninism with influence from Mao Zedong thought.
"Maoism" usually refers to Marxism-Leninism-Maoism which wasn't a thing before Mao died. I think the shining path were the first to call themselves Maoists
debating what maoism is should be left to actual maoists. I'm just pointing out that "maoist style revolutions since WWII" include Vietnam, China, Laos, Cambodia, Nepal, etc. all successful.
Sure they borrowed from Mao's tactics definitely, but none of those states would identify as Maoist except maybe Nepal
Isn't Vietnam maoist?
No definitely not. They even took the USSR's side in the sino soviet split
Hmm, it certainly seems that Maoism has been an effective torch for colonized groups non the less though
That was the essence of Gonzaloism
i think its about him not planning to free Gonzalo or lessen his sentence? Also contrarianism.
Even the remaining Shining Path militias hate Gonzalo, it's only wierd westerners seething.
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