• Bluegrass_Buddhist [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Me and the rats that live in my walls salute Señor Presidente.

    :fidel-salute:

    :rat-salute: :rat-salute: :rat-salute: :rat-salute: :rat-salute: :rat-salute: :rat-salute: :rat-salute: :rat-salute: :rat-salute: :rat-salute: :rat-salute: :rat-salute: :rat-salute: :rat-salute:

  • FidelCastro [he/him]
    hexagon
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    3 years ago

    Disclaimer: officially, Castillo has not yet won.

    By my maths, he has won; Fujimori needs 75% of the remaining vote to win. That is c. 159,000 votes out of a remaining c. 210,000 votes.

    Edit: 77%. c. 155k of c. 199k remaining

    Edit: 81%. c. 150k of 185k remaining

    Based on the information available from here.

    • ErnestGoesToGulag [comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      Remember he’ll still have to deal with vote manipulation accusations, the inevitable CIA coup, a year of an intern government, another election, sanctions, an assassination attempt or two, etc.

      • SweetCheeks [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        i think that only happens if the government that's in place while the votes are being counted is left wing. so basically if he wins reelection. i assume the current government is neolib or is the current government left wing too?

    • spectre [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Just heard on the news:

      "We are getting word now that Hexbear is projecting Castillo as the winner, though we are still waiting to hear from TeleSur, CNN, and the Associated Press among others. Our internal analysts are closely monitoring the incoming results, but also have not projected a winner yet."

    • ErnestGoesToGulag [comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      Also in that link, under Ámbito, remember to click on "TODOS" not "PERÚ".

      Might be my fault, I was spreading the wrong link earlier. You want to look at all the data, not just domestic votes

    • Civility [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Including the international votes

      96.43% of the 2021 Peruvian Presidential Election vote is counted.

      50.288% is for Castillo ✏️

      49.712% is for Fujimori 🇰

      Castillo has a lead of 98,170 votes.

      Of the estimated 630,000 valid votes remaining, Castillo needs only 220,000 to win

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]M
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        3 years ago

        Voids are only counted if they can swing it. The hanging chad votes were technically marked void even though the voter wasn't doing it intentionally.

        If the margin is 1% and there are 5% voids, they could probably do something in the court to audit the voids and see if any of them were just poorly filled out but clearly voting for someone.

        Then again, using the hanging chads as evidence kinda shows how arbitrary it is when it gets to that point.

    • Gkalaitza [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Doupt there is many people left atually organized under some Shinning Path party line to seethe anymore

      • Pezevenk [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Shining Path is weird to say the very least.

          • Gkalaitza [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            I mean they were actually pretty successfull and actualy not that far from taking power if they didnt go balls to the wall with some horrible massacres and just straight up stupid shit. Nothing in Mao says "just butcher a village cause you have suspicions people from it helped/backed the government and then lose your popular support" .

            Applying Maoist People's War and the Mass line in different conditions has been more successfull and went further than 99% of leftist approaches post wwII. The fact that SP still had an open road to take power if they didnt completely shit the bed shows that the problem wasnt "Mao's class analysis". Put a more competent maoist revolutionary group like the Naxalites in their place and Peru probably has a successfull revolution

            • ErnestGoesToGulag [comrade/them]
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              3 years ago

              Which Maoist groups had a successful revolution post WWII though (besides Mao)?

              Seriously curious, the only ones I can think of aligned more with standard Marxism-Leninism than Marxism-Leninism-Maoism

              • kulak_inspektor [comrade/them]
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                3 years ago

                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_war

                They even took the USSR's side in the sino soviet split

                Does that make their methods any less Maoist? Nepal and China are big obvious ones tho

                • ErnestGoesToGulag [comrade/them]
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                  3 years ago

                  They definitely used revolutionary ideas developed from Mao, but that really falls under standard Marxism-Leninism with influence from Mao Zedong thought.

                  "Maoism" usually refers to Marxism-Leninism-Maoism which wasn't a thing before Mao died. I think the shining path were the first to call themselves Maoists

                  • kulak_inspektor [comrade/them]
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                    3 years ago

                    debating what maoism is should be left to actual maoists. I'm just pointing out that "maoist style revolutions since WWII" include Vietnam, China, Laos, Cambodia, Nepal, etc. all successful.

                    • ErnestGoesToGulag [comrade/them]
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                      3 years ago

                      Sure they borrowed from Mao's tactics definitely, but none of those states would identify as Maoist except maybe Nepal

      • Gkalaitza [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        i think its about him not planning to free Gonzalo or lessen his sentence? Also contrarianism.

        • Mardoniush [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          Even the remaining Shining Path militias hate Gonzalo, it's only wierd westerners seething.

  • NotAnOp [comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    The US state department disagrees with the people of Peru. As they see it, there is only one legitimate ruler of Peru... :guaido-despair:

  • kristina [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    peru bolivia confederation 2 electric boogaloo? :thonk: