And which countries have full fledged fascist governments?

  • frompeaches [she/her,they/them]
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    India, it's annexing states, building concentration camps to strip muslim citizens of citizenship, suspending bail & classifying posting as terrorism

  • wenox [she/her]
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    we have an abundance of both in Turkey so if anyone wants some leftovers

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      Erdogan isn't fascist. Yet at least.

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        he banned rainbows because it turns children gay

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          O kadari da oldu mu lan, ben sadece bikaç manyak LCWaikiki'deki tisörtleri kaldirtti diye biliyom

          I still don't think it counts as fascism.

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    Brazil is straight up fascist. He was planning to get a coup done back in march, but was talked out of it by his allies

    Not an impeachable offense, though, not at all. Performative opposition isn't a huge problem just in America

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    Pro tip for everyone in this thread, which is a mess: fascism is not just reactionary qualities of governance, it is a reactionary social movement that takes power.

    Literally every capitalist government has reactionary qualities, because capitalism itself breeds those qualities. Imperialism and expansion; bigotry, discrimination, and the division and subjugation of the working class—these are all “normal” features of capitalist states even without a fascist movement being present.

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      I knew what it was before clicking the link

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    all

    haha but seriously all of them

    concerning fascists right now would be uganda, DPRK, russia, the US, and the brits. id add china but people would want a struggle sesh and im too tired to deal with that rn

    belarus, poland, and hungary get honorable mentions

    • Amorphous [any]
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      concerning fascists right now would be ... DPRK

      The politics understander has logged on

      • yeehawman1312 [he/him,any]
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        im not even gonna debate this, its too late to the point that its too early.

        • Amorphous [any]
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          good to know that i can just say any dumb shit i want and then imply that other people are assholes for calling me out because im sleepy

          • yeehawman1312 [he/him,any]
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            literally what did i do to you

            i identified a fascist dictatorship cult of personality as a fascist dictatorship cult of personality

            oh my god im being baited please stop please i have insomnia i didnt ask for this please

            • Amorphous [any]
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              i identified a fascist dictatorship cult of personality as a fascist dictatorship cult of personality

              and i called you out for talking out of your ass about a country you've never tried to do the most basic amounts of research on understanding

              if you have literally never in your life sought out information about a country, shut the fuck up about it

              • yeehawman1312 [he/him,any]
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                im just not going to struggle sesh over an actual juche bootlicker.

                the dprk isnt a good place to live in, its not a communist utopia, and its not a place i want to see on the map every time i use google maps

                im sorry that i said the wrong thing i guess just please stop giving me notifications because i cant stop myself from looking at them

                • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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                  its not a place i want to see on the map every time i use google maps

                  You do understand that "removing the DPRK from the map" is most likely going to result in the murder of potentially millions of innocent people who are just trying to get by, right?

                  Is that really something you want to be advocating for, regardless of wether the DPRK is "good" or "bad"?

      • cro [he/him]
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        Tankies BTFO. Imperialist media makes the DPRK look way worse than it is, but it's still a totalitarian hellhole.

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          So do you have any actual evidence for the DPRK being a "totalitarian hellhole" or is this a "bro just trust me" kind of thing.

          And no, US State Department propaganda and fabricated "defector" testimony don't count.

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              Every socialist state has been "liberalizing" its economy in recent decades; a carefully state-controlled private sector can help speed up economic development and eliminate absolute poverty until productive forces are sufficiently developed to allow them to progress to a more advanced stage of socialism. China, Cuba, Vietnam, Nepal, and yeah, the DPRK have all been doing this to some degree. Even the CPP plans to include a stage of capitalist development as part of the development of socialism in the Philippines.

              there are more capitalist sympathizers in their legislature than there are socialists in the America

              Not sure what you mean by that. Are you talking about the Korean Social Democratic Party? They've been allied with the Worker's Party since the Korean War and are pretty minor.

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              Juche gang is working to purge and counter the revisionists capitalists.

        • JucheGang [any]
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          Juche gang thanks you for this critical support.

      • yeehawman1312 [he/him,any]
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        how is not wanting to live in a place where my sexuality is called a "decadent lifestyle" bad. i literally just don't want to be fucking shot for being gay, is there something wrong with hating a country solely based on its laws for human rights?

        even if i wouldnt be shot for it, im not gonna protect a fucking country that thinks being gay is bougie.

        fuck that shit and fuck you if you think im gonna campaign against my own rights.

        • Dapper_Cassowary [he/him,none/use name]
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          I'd have a look at this episode. It relates to this: https://soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/episode-08-the-human-rights-concern-troll-industrial-complex

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            8 "Article 193 outlaws the creation, distribution or possession of "decadent" culture, where as Article 194 outlaws sexually explicit media as well as engaging in "decadent" behavior."

            i dont want to live in any fucking country, but especially not the phobic ones.

            Article 194 (Conduct of Decadent Acts) A person who watches or listens to music, dance, drawings, photos, books, video recordings or electronic media that reflects decadent, carnal or foul contents or who performs such acts himself or herself shall be punished by short-term labour for less than two years. In cases where the person commits a grave offence, he or she shall be punished by reform through labour for less than five years.

            They don't state it explicitly but you know what they fucking mean. So fuck off judgemental, tankie, phobic-siding cuck.

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              Since when does "sexually explicit media" equal gay? What evidence do you have that the DPRK actually bans homosexuality, let alone shoots people for being gay?

              And the fact that you gave an "honorable mention" to Poland, which is explicitly transphobic and homophobic, while outright declaring the DPRK fascists betrays your Western chauvinism.

              Stop spreading racist, imperialist lies about countries under siege from the US.

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                I want to shoot Kim just as much as I want to shoot Polish politicians.

                I'm not a racist for not wanting to be put in a work camp because I fucked a cucumber.

                This is exactly why I dont make fucking takes in main, because its filled with straighties and cissies who don't care about our fucking struggles in socialist countries because "muh economic equality".

                Capitalist ideals are even ingrained into North Korea's penal code.

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                  That law clearly bans porn, not masturbating or being gay. You're just looking for an excuse to hate a country that you've been told is evil by imperialist war criminals your entire life.

                  The fact that you want to shoot Kim Jong-un despite clearly knowing nothing about him or the DPRK is disgusting. Read a book you fucking liberal.

                  • yeehawman1312 [he/him,any]
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                    holy shit dude, you don fucking live there either, you have no idea what the law means just as much as i do.

                    for all we fucking know it bans shitting on a plate and then eating the shit with a spoon and knife.

                    im so tired of seeing fakeass fucking leftists defend countries that clearly cut corners on lgbt rights, fuck you dog. im quitting this stupidass struggle sesh because its clear you just wanna be an argumentative piece of shit for no reason. fuck main and fuck juche

                • MonarchLabsOne [he/him]
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                  I’m not a racist for not wanting to be put in a work camp because I fucked a cucumber.

                  I don't know what this means but its great.

                    • JucheGang [any]
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                      Juche gang supports consensual cucumber fucking for all who want it.

                • JucheGang [any]
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                  I want to shoot Kim just as much as I want to shoot Polish politicians.

                  :(

            • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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              It's literally legal to be gay in DPRK and it's never been illegal. They are materialists, they accept that homosexuality is a natural occurrence as it has been shown scientifically. You can't just call a country you know nothing about "homophobic" and act like you're not caring water for US Imperialism.

    • JucheGang [any]
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      Juche gang objects to this take. Please re-evaluate your opinion.

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        Juche Gang reminder that authoritarianism isn't real.