• adultswim_antifa [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Obama not closing gitmo was one of the early "hey wait a minute, this guy sucks" moments for me.

    • grey_wolf_whenever [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      For sure, for like no gain too. He had a ton of political capital, he just didn't want to do it because he believes in it.

    • Optimismbias [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Oh, I'm sure he wanted to. He simply wasn't allowed to. The national security state runs America. If Obama didn't expose it, Trump made it crystal clear. They outright disobeyed him, and lied to him. Nobody got fired or went to prison. The elected US government doesn't control things. It's the people who are in unelected offices for 30-40 years and can outlast any president.

      Brennan I think it was, blurted out top secret information on a news show. Clear-cut as a security violation as you can get. Reality Winner level stuff. Trump ordered his security clearance revoked, as would be the minimum punishment, a slap on the wrist, plus very possibly prison time. Nothing happened. His order was ignored.

      • ElGosso [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Not to get too lib but closing Guantanamo would require an act of Congress, which Obama did try to get them to pass in 2009. It failed, of course, even though Dems controlled both chambers.

    • SweetCheeks [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      maybe closing gitmo could have been a bargaining chip for negotiating ending the cuban embargo.

      • LeninsRage [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Obama promised to close the Gitmo gulag, not the base. Theyll never close the base.