I wonder what happen when you charge a shitton of money for STEM majors and less money for other courses.
Real "Soviet Union forced women to become scientists" energy.
To this day they still suffer from the vestiges of equality.
Deploying relevant Michael Parenti quote:
"In the United States, for over a hundred years, the ruling interests tirelessly propagated anticommunism among the populace, until it became more like a religious orthodoxy than a political analysis. During the Cold War, the anticommunist ideological framework could transform any data about existing communist societies into hostile evidence. If the Soviets refused to negotiate a point, they were intransigent and belligerent; if they appeared willing to make concessions, this was but a skillful ploy to put us off our guard. By opposing arms limitations, they would have demonstrated their aggressive intent; but when in fact they supported most armament treaties, it was because they were mendacious and manipulative. If the churches in the USSR were empty, this demonstrated that religion was suppressed; but if the churches were full, this meant the people were rejecting the regime’s atheistic ideology. If the workers went on strike (as happened on infrequent occasions), this was evidence of their alienation from the collectivist system; if they didn’t go on strike, this was because they were intimidated and lacked freedom. A scarcity of consumer goods demonstrated the failure of the economic system; an improvement in consumer supplies meant only that the leaders were attempting to placate a restive population and so maintain a firmer hold over them.
If communists in the United States played an important role struggling for the rights of workers, the poor, African-Americans, women, and others, this was only their guileful way of gathering support among disfranchised groups and gaining power for themselves. How one gained power by fighting for the rights of powerless groups was never explained. What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum."
Man, when Parenti is on fire, he puts it more clearly than just about anyone. :party-parenti:
If the numbers were the other way around they would just come up with some bullshit about ‘muh communism no science’ like you can’t win these people lmao
Oh, oh, oh! I've got this one... "China only has 13% STEM because they STEAL all the ideas from elsewhere.."
:honk-enraged:
But you don't need anywhere near as many hackers hacking at any one time as you'd need a horde of various STEM professionals to create new things or novel uses of old things.
Then the hackers can only steal ideas that are already made so if all the good ideas are taken... then what do?
If they were capable of understanding structural violence/coercion they wouldn't be libs
Thank God most Americans don't get into STEM in an attempt to avoid the frigid grasp of debt
Minimum wage chemistry, programming, and auditing jobs go to show that STEM is saturated as is in the US. Fuck, all of education is becoming useless and saturated. I literally make more doing customer service than I did as an Assistant/Associate Professor.
American work culture is broken. The grind propaganda is nearing it's tipping point though I think. People aren't buying it anymore.
Been applying to jobs and half of them want me to join an affiliate temp agency to start work. They literally pay the company then that company pays me less. The reasoning is something to do with experience and "putting in your time". Fuck you, pay me.
When I ask how many employees they have they seem to be proud of the fact that "the number of employees we have at any given time is based on production demand"... Okay, can you tell me how many of those 100 employees you seemingly lose every year were temps? "All of them".
Actually, yes. Unless you're going into engineering a lot of stem jobs pay like shit and have low prospects. I know quite a few people even outside of the US that didn't go into chemistry or pure math (or physics) for financial reasons and instead went into non-STEM majors.
engineering also sucks because everyone thought engineering didn't suck and went into it, so now it does.
Everyone I know in mechanical engineering either got an advanced degree, switched specialization, or has been traveling the country and getting laid off from the last remnants of the industrial jobs that exist here.
Somehow a little over a decade ago people still thought that mecheng was the guaranteed employment one.
mecheng is now the business major for people who are ""visual learners."
Lots of my friends went into econ and stem "against their will" in that their economic position determined they could go to college, but could only pursue majors which more or less guaranteed a return on investment.
I know STEM doesn't guarantee a return on investment anymore, but 15ish years ago it was sort of the last hope.
The reality is college is just not accessible to everyone
The comparison is between people already in college, but yes, this fact probably bias the proportion of majors picks. Like, maybe most people who can't afford college would pick STEM if college was free.
Maybe because you have this 3-year programs. Some shit is really hard and you need more years to digest all that info.
DARPA promotes STEM like fucking crazy, that's practically American culture.
I wonder why a country with a still-developing field for scientists, engineers, and programmers might offer more prospects than one that is so very very over saturated. I also wonder if maybe China has way less of a stuck-up attitude about what does and doesn't count as stem. I'm not sure about in China, but I know in America Geology and some other fields don't get counted as stem despite doing the same things as other stem fields.
Literally all of the humanities and arts bundled up into a single letter.
so....STEAM = education? That's literally all the subjects except for something like agriculture
but when you can't afford to get the education you want or that would allow you to realize your full potential, that's not involuntary. that's just the market at work. sorry, should have learned to code if you wanted to be able to afford to learn to code.
Am from China. Xi forced me to eat a multivariable calculus textbook. Ama
How did it taste? Would you recommend using the Jacobian as a spice, or are PDEs better for pasta sauces?
Thank god we can choose to go to college for 4 years and take on tens of thousands in debt that the degree won’t even guarantee a job because you don’t have any actual experience so you need to do an unpaid internship first.
Thank good we have democracy in our work places and in our school systems. That person needs to literally [REDACTED] themselves.
They beat me because I counted out the square root of 42069 on my fingers.
