Honestly stunned a movie with a wide release is this explicitly anticap

  • GayCommie96 [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Something about movies as a medium allows people to tolerate and even root for much more left-wing politics than they usually do. I'm sure someone smarter than me has written about why.

    • ProfessionalSlacker
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      4 years ago

      1. People don't really grapple with the themes of a movie. There are a lot of people who listen to music and don't pay attention to the lyrics, there are just as many who watch RoboCop and think "wow, he's a robot AND a cop, that's nuts."

      2. A lot of movies with seemingly radical themes often just take place within a radical conflict but have very centrist/lib/reactionary themes. You could read an anti-fascist subtext into Star Wars for instance, but the emotional core of the movie is the conflict between Luke and Vader which is resolved by the liberal/rebel refusing to engage in violence.

      3. Most people aren't actually that committed to capitalism, but are committed to capitalist parties because politics is only presented within a certain window of acceptable practice. If we had a direct democracy where policy gets decided by a mandatory poll of the entire population, the result would be far to the left of the current US government.

      • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        watch RoboCop and think “wow, he’s a robot AND a cop, that’s nuts.”

        One thing that makes great art great (and RoboCop is absolutely great yes I will fucking fight you) is that you can enjoy it on a bunch of levels.

        • ProfessionalSlacker
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          4 years ago

          Oh absolutely. Don't get me wrong, I'm not banging on RoboCop at all, or even necessarily people who don't think about the political subtext. I think Mad Max Fury Road is the greatest action movie of all time, and a big reason is that it's as deep as you want it to be: you can enjoy it as a dumb action movie, you can enjoy it as a piece about how fascism maintains itself by deliberately alienating and dis-empowering people through capitalism, patriarchy, etc. and that the only way to defeat it is to break down the arbitrary barriers that exist between the lower classes. Just providing an explanation as to why people are able to enjoy movies with wildly different politics than their own. Hell, I can enjoy superhero movies despite them all having terrible politics.

          • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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            4 years ago

            Hell, I can enjoy superhero movies despite them all having terrible politics.

            A fun way to watch Batman v. Superman is to look at Superman as what America thinks it is, and Batman as what America actually is.

  • GreatBearShark [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    this movie slaps and I’ve been recommending it to the libs I know to slowly radicalize them

    also I’ll watch lakeith stanfield in anything

  • communist [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    it's great. there's actually a decent amount of anticapitalist films with fairly wide releases (even more that are indie), but a big problem a lot of them run into is the fact that they don't have someone saying, as explicitly as possible, "capitalism fucking sucks" in the film leads people to co-opt it into their own shit. i guess a good example of that would be they live and to a lesser degree brazil and american psycho. some people are so lib-brained they don't even realize snowpiercer is anti-capitalist though so lmao.

  • Girtsquirt [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I loved the movie. Stunning visuals, even better message. Also made me appreciate the movie Hamilton more because Daveed Diggs is in both.