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Kind of have the same opinion as when HW Bush died. By living to old age and dying in a comfortable manner surrounded by their family they effectively got away with everything. He'll be given an elaborate funeral and lauded as a great patriot or some bullshit. Like Hunter S Thompson said of Nixon, his body should be dumped directly into the sewer.
Kissinger will die peacefully after living a full life too :angery:
"Mauled" seems like such a strong word for someone who's probably the consistency of wet bread.
Is it though? Like, he still has his nobel peace prize and this is the widest reaching article critical of him in any way, and even then its still mainstream :LIB: as hell.
We know it is, but consent has been thoroughly manufactured here. Ideally by the time I'm old that will have faded but I'm not confident in that, the propaganda machine keeps plugging away unabated
As little as a year ago, I thought Thompson was exaggerating. Nope, right on. :dumpster-fire:
True, but hopefully one day in the future where communism wins, his legacy and memory can properly be shat upon and dragged through the mud like it deserves.
You said it perfectly; the older I get, the more I realize morality is a human construct for the benefits of cooperation. It was necessary for early survival, then became weaponized against ourselves through the rest of human history.
Some good people die suffering, some bad people die peacefully. Karma doesn't exist, we just pick out stories from the times it works the way it should. Its really disheartening because nature is indifferent in sorting it out; all the while we were told in a cosmic sense the universe would act as a fair judge.
No, can't be, because according to their own rules, then Rummy would have had to have killed Kissinger.
Rummsfeld was Darth Maul, in that he was the shitty apprentice in charge of a large scale, imperial invasion of a nation (planet), with valuable natural resources, that was defeated by an army of inexperienced freedom fighters (Iraqis/Gungans) . And now, Rummy, like Maul, is fucking dead, while his master lurks in the shadows. (I'm considering Maul dead post-EP 1, as I have not watched the childrens cartoon show)
that time Rumsfeld got yelled at for being a war criminal while waiting at a bus stop
On Thursday, February 26 I shared a bus stop with a major war criminal. Donald Rumsfeld was standing at my bus stop that morning as I waited to take my boy to school. I confronted him and couldn’t control my anger. I had seen him once before walk by (his arm was in a sling then and he looked positively wizened, but this time he was hale and nattily dressed) but had been too flabbergasted to react. I wanted to be ready with something to say the next time, and had prepared myself, but couldn’t stay on script past "You think you can show your face in public among decent people?". I became more vociferous and enraged the longer it went: mass murderer, traitor, torturer, rapist of children. . . . In fact, from my first words, when I saw Rumsfeld don an impenetrable smirk I consciously took the tack of yelling and loudly indicating his presence to everyone else; I wanted to enlist their help (Afterwards it reminded me of the scene in "Marathon Man" where Olivier is accosted on the street). Dismayingly my gentle fellow citizens didn’t intervene in any way, or were even outright hostile to me, although some people who witnessed the exchange from the bus comforted me afterwards, approvingly. Thankfully my kid was not overly disturbed, and seemed even cheerful after I explained that Rumsfeld is a wicked man who started a war, like Sauron or Saruman, but that he was not a danger to us.
I’m frankly not positive about the latter assertion.
Anyway, he did respond at a couple of points. One insidious tactic was to comment on my kid — I don’t remember his exact words, but it was something to the effect that he would be messed up by having such a crazy father (I believe he said, but am not sure, "That kid is going to have a rough life"). I took the bait and responded, "He has to learn the difference between good and evil." The other was a surprising statement, the inverse of the old defense "I vuz only taking orders", uttered in a tone of bemused incredulity you’d recognize from his press conferences: "But I didn’t order those things." I took that lie as an admission.
that article references the WaPo mention of this incident
Donald Rumsfeld having a less-than-friendly start to his day at a Dupont Circle bus stop. The former defense secretary was waiting for a long-delayed bus when a man in his late 30s with a young son got just inches from his face and started berating him over his handling of the war in Iraq -- words like "warmonger," "rapist" and "evil man" were heard by others at the stop. Rumsfeld stood stoically, not responding, so the man turned to the rest of the crowd and yelled at them for not joining him in heaping abuse. Then the man's bus arrived (Rumsfeld was waiting for a different one) and that was that.
You can't expect help like that when you're in the city of the guilty. Good for that guy tho.
good
Not a good joke but here it is anyway...
He doesn't know shit. He's dead.
Do people make fun of the actual concept?
there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don't know we don't know.
This is all completely true. Obviously him using that to justify invading Iraq despite lack of evidence is bullshit, but it seems like people are more making fun of the whole concept of unknown unknowns.
No, it's how bizarrely philosophical of an answer that was with regards to WMDs, invasion strategy, etc. It's the same comical level of cop-out to avoid saying "I might be wrong" that also got us the famous Bush Jr. "Fool me twice--can't get fooled again" line. Lots of extemporaneous political speaking centers around avoiding certain types of phrasing, and setting yourself up to be caught dead to rights being wrong in the future is one of the big ones you get taught to avoid verbalizing.
Rumsfeld couldn't answer questions about WMDs, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. with any form of "but hey I might be wrong, we'll see", because the second he was actually wrong it'd be the only thing saturating airwaves for weeks. So, you do wordy philosophical mush-mouthing that says "well, it's not our fault we didn't know, remember how I talked about unknown unknowns?"
It's in a sense a truism but it also pairs nicely with this quote about the location of WMDs (which was clearly total bullshit):
We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.
They both read with the energy of a guy who has to do a book report presentation who's trying to stream together a shit load of smart sounding truisms and basic knowledge that actually reveal how little he knows concretely and how he's just winging it and making shit up.
Here you go comrade:
https://twitter.com/Mike_from_PA/status/1410317916080427009
Not really a joke but the Boondocks did a good job with this scene.
He deserved to die being clubbed to death with the prosthetic limbs of a mob of maimed iraqi orphans, but this'll do. Plenty of time for Dubya and Blair.
800,000 dead Iraqis better be torturing this guy for all eternity in the afterlife, it's the least of what he deserves.
/r/news locked the thread announcing his death within minutes
Reminder that this trash got over a thousand upvotes in the Castro death announcement thread back in 2016:
And so ends the reign of the man who took over Cuba and promised a "People's Revolution" only to turn his back on everyone and everything once in power so he and his buttbuddy Che could murder close associates seen as risks to their power and plunge Cuba into a totalitarian dictatorship. He turned Cuba into his political 'communist' experiment and ran it like a rich-kid despot who reviled in his own ego forcing his subjects to listen to hour long monologues and tirades against their fabricated foreign enemies. The enemy was always the outsiders, and only Fidel could protect them and "their" revolution of course.
Yes Fidel was highly educated and had a law degree. He was also a great orator and manipulator. He was indeed very intelligent and any who sat down with him were often charmed by his compelling rehtoric and ideas. He woed not only celebs and even Canada's own Prime Minister, but also generations of impressionable idealistic youth that clung on to his fantasy world. That's what made him so dangerous.
In reality he starved, beat, and jailed dissenters and ruined the lives of millions of Cubans. Imagine being born and raised into the economic and financial prison hell that is Cuba? How would you feel about those who praised the man whose state almost literally owned you and your entire family like slaves? What justice did these people ever get? Nothing. They got and still continue to get f*cked over. Fidel is dead but their suffering is not. Remember that when you type an idealistic euology from the comfort of your first world home.
Many will eulogize him as some sort of 'revolutionary', foolishly pushing forth the very same false narrative that Fidel built around himself. The so called hero that enslaved a nation to be put on t-shirts and sold to people who romanticize the horror that was and continues to be the Cuban 'Communist" regime.
Oh and he did all this while smoking cigars and enjoying life on his secret island that nobody was allowed to talk about where he enjoyed cognac and other foreign films and imports just like some famous despots from Korea. Nobody can rival the hypocrisy of despots.
He partied, drank, smoked, banged, and laughed his way to the grave all while his people suffered. You have to give it to him, as a douche, he was quite a successful douche. Che got too ambitious for his own good and look what happened. Fidel was content with running his very own island plantation.. erm I mean the "PEOPLE'S island paradise".
What a revolutionary guise.
P.S. This was all America's fault. That's why Cuba couldn't be free. It's always the Yankees fault of course! Those globalist gringos keeping the "people's" revolution down amrite? - Fidel probably, as he sips from his cognac and puffs his cigars from hell.
Fuck the person who made that comment, literally every point I'm just like "Bitch do you know anything about life under Batista?"
"No calls to, or celebration of, violence" is always selectively enforced.
It is always enforced in favour of the Western world and to the status quo. You can call for nuclear hellfire on billions of Chinese people, call for the mass death of people in the Middle East, suggest that Africa should be forcibly sterilised to counter-act "overpopulation", but if you even express some joy that a dude responsible for widespread suffering throughout the world is now dead then your ass is banned and the thread is locked.
Not here though. Roast in fucking hell Rumsfeld, you should have gone sooner and that's the only sadness I can conjure up.
First: :hexcrab-party:
But here comes the hard and cold reality: he fucking won, he got away with it. He has a lot of fucking blood in his hands, a fuckton of people died because of people like him. Sure, he's fucking no more, but his job is done. Same goes for when fucking Kissinger dies, god, it'll be a fine day yes but holy shit they got away with it.
I'm sorry, but fuck yeah this ghoul is DEAD. I hope Bush dies next.
There's five more waiting in the wings. Stephen Miller is like 36.
I also have very mixed feelings. So many awful people will get away with terrible things. Not a good vibe
The Megathread is dead (?)
Long Live the Rumsfeld Dead Megathread
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i'm very glad i listened to blowback season 1 in order to truly understand how horrible of a human being he was. very happy to celebrate this occasion
