The story of it being from a batch of THC cartridges made with oil instead of the glycols you're supposed to use also does kinda make sense.
Like dumbasses with vapes don't know the difference and if you're just buying it from some dude there's not really a way to be sure if it's the right stuff.
The story of it being from a batch of THC cartridges made with oil instead of the glycols you’re supposed to use also does kinda make sense.
it's still false.
Check out Nathan Rich. The vitamin E oil is NOT the cause, as there were victims who did not use oil vapes. This vape outbreak was also limited strictly to the USA. None in Europe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdKI5qOF_a8&t=3s
There are also the Fairfax county outbreaks in July 2019, where people caught a mystery pneumonia. This pneumonia tested negative for any standard flu/cold infections, among others, and doctors remarked on how atypical it was.
There's been a continuous stream of mysterious COVID-like diseases, which tested negative for other common viruses, from July 2019 - November 2019 in the USA.
November 2019 is also when Trump had his mystery hospital visit, after which he admitted on private tapes that covid was going to be devastating, while contradictorily never wearing a mask. Almost as if he had received some sort of preventative therapy.
COVID-19 was a lab leak from Ft. Belvoir, and when it became uncontainable the US military seeded it at the Wuhan military games as a coverup (possibly via leaks through the US-funded WIV)
A TALE OF TWO YEARS There were a ton of US pneumonia outbreaks that made the news in 2019, when compared with 2018.
Seriously though, it's okay to speculate and connect dots. It's how literally all investigations are done.
The difference between rational speculation and deranged or paranoid speculation is that the latter type ignores contravening facts and evidence. In other words, it's okay to continue to speculate as long as your hypothesis hasn't yet been falsified.
So think critically about it. What is it that makes this theory "wild"? Is it just because of the scope of the lie, or is there evidence that rules it out? If so, state what that evidence is rather than laughing at the people trying to look into this. :meow-hug:
I did further down, mainly just that I don't see why they'd do a risky and highly experimental procedure on the president.
And if they did have a treatment that worked, they would have been very public about it from day one. The last thing they wanted to do was lockdown. If they had a treatment they could point to, they would have pointed to it.
Other than that, yeah I basically agree. Especially because the end result of it being a weaponized virus, an accidental leak, or a natural disease are all the same. The US used this pandemic as a political cudgel against the entire world.
I think the theory that Trump received some kind of experimental vaccine is ancillary to the larger theory about a US lab leak and the vaping illness. The rest of the theory doesn't hinge on it at all.
If there was a treatment though, we have no way of knowing how risky or experimental it actually was. They could have been working on this stuff for a long time, and all of that research would be classified. I've seen credible speculation that SARS2 is actually an attenuated derivative of the SARS virus intended for use in the creation of a SARS vaccine.
If they had pointed to the experimental vaccine as soon as COVID struck the US, that would have revealed America's role in the creation of the virus.
That's the one thing that hinges on the weakest evidence and has the greatest implications. Namely that there was something they could have done about it, but didn't for some reason.
The rest is believable, and even if it's not true, Fort Derrick and the 200 other bio weapon labs the us runs absolutely need to be put in the spotlight and investigated then shut down.
If you lead with the Trump getting an experimental therapy that made him immune, you'll lose a lot of people right away though. So stick to what we know which is that the US has an insane number of bio weapons research facilities all around the world, and one of them was in close proximity to an unknown flu outbreak right before covid and was promptly shut down.
Also I think Trump didn’t mask because he didn’t like the way it made him look.
Then why did he admit how devastating it was back in February 2020 on leaked private tapes? He basically said "this is gonna kill everyone" and then never wore a mask as a 75 year old.
and AFTER that, it took him until October 2020 to actually GET covid, despite him literally never wearing a mask. Again, almost as if he had received some type of therapy that wore off after 11 months.
If not, why was Trump a patient in Walter Reed in November 2019? What happened there? He came back with an IV bruise on his arm, and no explanation was ever given. Total mystery.
it's whatever because even the trump stuff is secondary. Why did 2019 have so many pneumonia outbreaks compared to 2018? At a certain point you have to admit the probability of all of this stuff being coincidence is pretty low
The Trump thing is the most questionable, mainly because I don't think they'd do an experimental treatment on the president before he even got sick.
I do think that the US is hiding a lot of military research into weaponized pandemic, and I do think that even if covid was just a coincidence, they were ready to do something like this anyways.
This pandemic, wether natural or manufactured, was absolutely used as a political tool by the empire against China specifically and the third world generally with blame being aggressively thrown at China while vaccine efforts were locked behind imperial walls and used as a bludgeon against the over exploited colonies.
The one thing that definitely comes out of this is that the US no longer holds cultural hegemony. American exceptionalism is dead outside the domestic cults. What comes next is either a slow death of empire or a violent explosion of reaction.
Historically speaking, were on the cusp of another global imperialist war. The question is how willing is the populous, and how will this war be fought?
If what you're saying is true about the US seeding Covid in China, then pair that with trade sanctions, and vaccine diplomacy and we're already in a global war.
I’m also fairly confident that the Trump administration was waging hybrid bio-warfare on Chinese agriculture, which is important context.
Yeah, I didn't even mention this one. China's had like 10 different outbreaks of swine flu or avian flu or something-or-other over the last 5 years
Why aren't other developing nations having such outbreaks? Why isn't India, which is far, far more polluted than China, and with far poorer sanitation measures, having weird outbreaks every other month?
The author has an anti-China bias but it's easy enough to separate his scientific reasoning from his racist projections. All of the genetic evidence that he argues in favor of the lab-leak theory is applicable to a leak from any laboratory.
Here is more stuff related to the war on agriculture:
I wonder if the seeds Americans have been recieving from China in the mail are related to this conflict, like, those included invasive species and seeds that spread mold and damaged soil.
Normal Chinese citizens haven't been receiving unexplained fruit flies in the mail afaik. Sending tainted seeds to random people who will just trash them seems untenable. The fruit fly package was intercepted at the shipping center, presumably on its way to someone who was expecting them and knew what to do with them, like a spook. China also doesn't have a history of engaging in covert biowarfare like the US.
my question is though, why didn't we see the same amount of crisis in the US in those months leading up to 2020? Because early on in our whole Covid thing, hospitals were overrun to the point they didn't have any beds left, they were running low on equipment. We went months with literally no precautions, but it seemed never to hit the same disaster point we hit in like spring 2020. And also if it had gotten out, it 100% would've spread to other countries, since Americans, especially in the Beltway, are so keen on travelling. But no other countries seemed to hit that crisis point. Was I just not paying attention? Was there crisis that just wasn't covered?
my question is though, why didn’t we see the same amount of crisis in the US
low population density and natural spread
vs. high population density and targeted deliberate spread
also the virus even after release has been mutating into more and more contagious forms. The one that hit the West in 2020 (D614G) was already way more contagious than the Wuhan strain. It's probable that any hypothetical strain from July 2019 was even less contagious.
idk what you are defining as high vs low density, but the washington DC area is one of the denser areas of the US, and is also the southern end of the northeast megalopolis, which includes some of the densest areas of the US. Idk and i don't think any of those places can compare to China, especially not DC, but its not like you're out living in farmland or something. Its dense cities surrounded by dense suburbs up and down that part of the Atlantic Coast.
Also the locations of those pneumonia outbreaks are Marshall County, WV, outside Phoenix, AZ and Terre Haute, IN. That's low density - the closest city to Marshall County is like Wheeling. If this thing could've spread to those sorts of places, then there can't be too much of a problem with density, and the virus already has access to the densest areas of the US, being situated on the northeast Atlantic Coast. Which is also a very global population with a lot of money, which should mean it can spread globally since those places travel a lot. At least if it can spread to the middle of West Virginia.
Just trying to be critical before I buy this theory
The story of it being from a batch of THC cartridges made with oil instead of the glycols you're supposed to use also does kinda make sense.
Like dumbasses with vapes don't know the difference and if you're just buying it from some dude there's not really a way to be sure if it's the right stuff.
it's still false.
Check out Nathan Rich. The vitamin E oil is NOT the cause, as there were victims who did not use oil vapes. This vape outbreak was also limited strictly to the USA. None in Europe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdKI5qOF_a8&t=3s
It's also a fact that vapers are 5x more likely to catch covid due to compromised lung surfaces. Canary in the mine essentially.
There are also the Fairfax county outbreaks in July 2019, where people caught a mystery pneumonia. This pneumonia tested negative for any standard flu/cold infections, among others, and doctors remarked on how atypical it was.
Retirement outbreak
This comment is from July 2019
There's been a continuous stream of mysterious COVID-like diseases, which tested negative for other common viruses, from July 2019 - November 2019 in the USA.
Teenage boy gets pneumonia in October or November 2019, recovers, then dies of a random blood clot. Textbook Covid death, and I would bet money that boy had blood type A (predisposed to clotting, and clinically shown to have higher COVID death rates and post-covid clotting)
November 2019 is also when Trump had his mystery hospital visit, after which he admitted on private tapes that covid was going to be devastating, while contradictorily never wearing a mask. Almost as if he had received some sort of preventative therapy.
COVID-19 was a lab leak from Ft. Belvoir, and when it became uncontainable the US military seeded it at the Wuhan military games as a coverup (possibly via leaks through the US-funded WIV)
A TALE OF TWO YEARS There were a ton of US pneumonia outbreaks that made the news in 2019, when compared with 2018.
This is some wild amount of speculation lol
(As much as I'd love if it was true)
Also I think Trump didn't mask because he didn't like the way it made him look. Dude's always been obsessed with appearance
:tromp: No, YOU'RE speculation!
spoiler
Seriously though, it's okay to speculate and connect dots. It's how literally all investigations are done.
The difference between rational speculation and deranged or paranoid speculation is that the latter type ignores contravening facts and evidence. In other words, it's okay to continue to speculate as long as your hypothesis hasn't yet been falsified.
So think critically about it. What is it that makes this theory "wild"? Is it just because of the scope of the lie, or is there evidence that rules it out? If so, state what that evidence is rather than laughing at the people trying to look into this. :meow-hug:
I did further down, mainly just that I don't see why they'd do a risky and highly experimental procedure on the president.
And if they did have a treatment that worked, they would have been very public about it from day one. The last thing they wanted to do was lockdown. If they had a treatment they could point to, they would have pointed to it.
Other than that, yeah I basically agree. Especially because the end result of it being a weaponized virus, an accidental leak, or a natural disease are all the same. The US used this pandemic as a political cudgel against the entire world.
Okay, thanks for sharing your reasoning.
I think the theory that Trump received some kind of experimental vaccine is ancillary to the larger theory about a US lab leak and the vaping illness. The rest of the theory doesn't hinge on it at all.
If there was a treatment though, we have no way of knowing how risky or experimental it actually was. They could have been working on this stuff for a long time, and all of that research would be classified. I've seen credible speculation that SARS2 is actually an attenuated derivative of the SARS virus intended for use in the creation of a SARS vaccine.
If they had pointed to the experimental vaccine as soon as COVID struck the US, that would have revealed America's role in the creation of the virus.
That's the one thing that hinges on the weakest evidence and has the greatest implications. Namely that there was something they could have done about it, but didn't for some reason.
The rest is believable, and even if it's not true, Fort Derrick and the 200 other bio weapon labs the us runs absolutely need to be put in the spotlight and investigated then shut down.
If you lead with the Trump getting an experimental therapy that made him immune, you'll lose a lot of people right away though. So stick to what we know which is that the US has an insane number of bio weapons research facilities all around the world, and one of them was in close proximity to an unknown flu outbreak right before covid and was promptly shut down.
Then why did he admit how devastating it was back in February 2020 on leaked private tapes? He basically said "this is gonna kill everyone" and then never wore a mask as a 75 year old.
and AFTER that, it took him until October 2020 to actually GET covid, despite him literally never wearing a mask. Again, almost as if he had received some type of therapy that wore off after 11 months.
If not, why was Trump a patient in Walter Reed in November 2019? What happened there? He came back with an IV bruise on his arm, and no explanation was ever given. Total mystery.
I'm saying he didn't wear a mask at speaking events, but likely followed precautions when the cameras weren't on him
it's whatever because even the trump stuff is secondary. Why did 2019 have so many pneumonia outbreaks compared to 2018? At a certain point you have to admit the probability of all of this stuff being coincidence is pretty low
The Trump thing is the most questionable, mainly because I don't think they'd do an experimental treatment on the president before he even got sick.
I do think that the US is hiding a lot of military research into weaponized pandemic, and I do think that even if covid was just a coincidence, they were ready to do something like this anyways.
This pandemic, wether natural or manufactured, was absolutely used as a political tool by the empire against China specifically and the third world generally with blame being aggressively thrown at China while vaccine efforts were locked behind imperial walls and used as a bludgeon against the over exploited colonies.
The one thing that definitely comes out of this is that the US no longer holds cultural hegemony. American exceptionalism is dead outside the domestic cults. What comes next is either a slow death of empire or a violent explosion of reaction.
Historically speaking, were on the cusp of another global imperialist war. The question is how willing is the populous, and how will this war be fought?
If what you're saying is true about the US seeding Covid in China, then pair that with trade sanctions, and vaccine diplomacy and we're already in a global war.
Hybrid war.
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If a Trump wears a mask in the middle of the Oval Office and no one is around to film it, does he still make a heavy breathing sound?
Oh, Fuck! :brace-cowboy:
Oh, Shit! :liz-society:
👀
I'm also fairly confident that the Trump administration was waging hybrid bio-warfare on Chinese agriculture, which is important context.
Yeah, I didn't even mention this one. China's had like 10 different outbreaks of swine flu or avian flu or something-or-other over the last 5 years
Why aren't other developing nations having such outbreaks? Why isn't India, which is far, far more polluted than China, and with far poorer sanitation measures, having weird outbreaks every other month?
Don't just link screenshots, link the whole article
https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/
The author has an anti-China bias but it's easy enough to separate his scientific reasoning from his racist projections. All of the genetic evidence that he argues in favor of the lab-leak theory is applicable to a leak from any laboratory.
Here is more stuff related to the war on agriculture:
Chinese pig farm jams drone of crooks spreading African swine fever
Media reports confirmed that the 7,000 fruit flies found in tubes hidden in clothing imported illegally into Qingdao, China, were from a parcel originating from the US
I wonder if the seeds Americans have been recieving from China in the mail are related to this conflict, like, those included invasive species and seeds that spread mold and damaged soil.
Normal Chinese citizens haven't been receiving unexplained fruit flies in the mail afaik. Sending tainted seeds to random people who will just trash them seems untenable. The fruit fly package was intercepted at the shipping center, presumably on its way to someone who was expecting them and knew what to do with them, like a spook. China also doesn't have a history of engaging in covert biowarfare like the US.
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I'm not sure that I believe this (yet), but I like it
How can I keep this comment and the links forever? This is some super intriguing stuff.
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Sweet, thank you!
screenshot, save in MSpaint, go to links and screenshot those too, save in relevant folder
nothing exists until its on your hard drive
Cool, thanks!
my question is though, why didn't we see the same amount of crisis in the US in those months leading up to 2020? Because early on in our whole Covid thing, hospitals were overrun to the point they didn't have any beds left, they were running low on equipment. We went months with literally no precautions, but it seemed never to hit the same disaster point we hit in like spring 2020. And also if it had gotten out, it 100% would've spread to other countries, since Americans, especially in the Beltway, are so keen on travelling. But no other countries seemed to hit that crisis point. Was I just not paying attention? Was there crisis that just wasn't covered?
low population density and natural spread
vs. high population density and targeted deliberate spread
also the virus even after release has been mutating into more and more contagious forms. The one that hit the West in 2020 (D614G) was already way more contagious than the Wuhan strain. It's probable that any hypothetical strain from July 2019 was even less contagious.
idk what you are defining as high vs low density, but the washington DC area is one of the denser areas of the US, and is also the southern end of the northeast megalopolis, which includes some of the densest areas of the US. Idk and i don't think any of those places can compare to China, especially not DC, but its not like you're out living in farmland or something. Its dense cities surrounded by dense suburbs up and down that part of the Atlantic Coast.
Also the locations of those pneumonia outbreaks are Marshall County, WV, outside Phoenix, AZ and Terre Haute, IN. That's low density - the closest city to Marshall County is like Wheeling. If this thing could've spread to those sorts of places, then there can't be too much of a problem with density, and the virus already has access to the densest areas of the US, being situated on the northeast Atlantic Coast. Which is also a very global population with a lot of money, which should mean it can spread globally since those places travel a lot. At least if it can spread to the middle of West Virginia.
Just trying to be critical before I buy this theory
I guess, but there have been spates of tainted drugs and shit in the past, but they've always been more widespread
Like bunk pills and the weed dusted with caster sugar thing
Idk which is more likely. It's definitely odd how it lined up with covid for sure