Now the story is that we actually did a lockdown, but it turns out lockdowns don't work so there's no point in doing it again? That's what you guys remember happening, right?
This is the mythology of a death cult.
Damn, you guys are really trying to speed run that collapsing empire thing, aren't you?
Broke: Anarcho-bidenism
Woke: Biden is ANTIFA Marxist SJW
Bespoke: :biden-leftist: is a Maoist third-worldist
Genuinely want to visit the parallel universe where Hillary won because I'd love to see how different the pandemic response would have been.
You'd get a tax credit for part of the hospital bills of your dead family
I think she’d do a good job tbh: probably on par with Canada, so for a western nation, decent. She’s very distinct from Biden IMO, and the ghouls around her are of a different variety than the scum of the earth in the Biden admin, no offense @neera_tanden
Again, good for a Western nation.
Are we counting New Zealand in the west, or are they the outlier that proves the rule?
Trump's colourful personality certainly didn't help but I think a lot of the reason for the failed COVID response doesn't lie with the individual leader but rather with the material conditions of the US.
In an environment where prohibitive costs makes healthcare inaccessible to a large part of the population you can expect many to shy away from seeking medical attention as long as they can. The inhumane working conditions faces by many people are also a problem. With sick days as heavily rationed as they are in US America people are not going to do the responsible thing and call in sick if they feel unwell. Instead they're going to work sick and infecting their colleagues.
The predatory nature of society also creates a culture of toxic individualism. People are used to being on their own and to society trying to fuck them over. They're not used to being helped out to experience solidarity. There is no cohesion and people are taught from an early age that other people by default are out to get them and that it's smart and chill not to care about your fellow human beings. This makes it hard to get people to follow even moderate hygienic recommendations like wearing masks or social distancing.
The US covid response was also a massive failure due to the lack of democracy in the US political system. Power is de facto held by the oligarchs who funds campaigns and owns the media. These oligarchs are concerned with their own short-term financial gains and will not be willing to accept effective measures like lockdowns.
None of these things were something that came with Trump and Clinton certainly wouldn't have changed them. Covid is decimating the US because the system is sick and brutal, not because a single individual leader was bad.
We can change the leaders but we cant change the populace. I think things would have been roughly the same, most of the gorvernors that mishandled shit still would have done so.
Bit idea: pull quotes from this lady and tell libs Trump's press secretary said it a year ago
Inb4 millions of people die
Edit: sorry, inb4 millions of more people die unnecessarily
If Trump won, we'd be at the exact same position we are now in terms of COVID. Change my mind.
I agree but I also think if Bernie won in 2016 and again in 2020, we wouldn't be much better off w/r/t COVID, either. He would certainly try, but he would face a lot of resistance from all sides. These are deep, structural issues that prevent the US from dealing appropriately with a crisis like this.
The bernie that could have one, punished burnie, wouldn't be afraid of the executive order pen. We only have our bernie though, so he failed
:punished-bernie: I'll make Stalin look like a fucking liberal!
We'd be better off becuase the libs wouldn't be at brunch they would be fighting to keep brunch closed.
Every child forced back into school is going to catch COVID this year. Delta is going to absolutely burn through all the schools (that was clear in the UK).
Only like 10% of <18 year olds are fully vaxed and there's no way the Biden admin gets it together to mandate it.
So much of the pandemic has made me so angry but this shit boils my blood as much as any of it, so many kids are going to needlessly get sick and get long term health problems or die over this bullshit and they have no say in the matter whatsoever. This is up there with cuomo's mass murder in the nursing homes.
Death to, and I cannot stress this enough, america :amerikkka:
And I'm worried all the kids with long-term effects from covid will be taught to blame china for it. The increasing US aggression to china is horrifying
And they'll say it's entirely the fault of progressives/succs/tankies/BLM/anarchists/Antifa/Sanders who simultaneously didn't vote hard enough but also scared away conservative Democrats by existing.
we solved it everywhere but the inbred hick red states, now we get to watch them sleep in the bed they made :biden-harbinger:
Hooray for liberal eugenics, so much more civil than fascist eugenics.
Liberals really are no different from reactionaries in that they both deeply internalize this American notion (brought over from Christianity IMO) that everyone deserves the full consequences of the choices they make; no mercy for anyone making a bad decision or any other extenuating circumstances.
Cant wait for Jen Psaki to tell us that “it’s each and every American’s responsibility to keep the American economy moving as we assess the situation. We will continue to listen to the science and act with pragmatism” as the inevitable escape variant rips through the population this winter, killing Biden in the process