• KingRalphus [they/them,undecided]
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    4 years ago

    Okay, long story short: I know how hard-left this sub is, and I'm pretty much to the left myself. I can't stand crooked law enforcement. I fiercely support Black Lives, and I think we need reform badly.

    But I happen to enjoy some movies/shows/games that have police characters.

    And I'm getting beyond fed up with seeing a certain movie (Zootopia) that impacted me so much get attacked from the left in this manner. Basically, I don't agree with how some in the hard left keep holding it up as "cop propaganda" or "fascist", which it isn't, and people accusing it of "getting racial allegories wrong" when in reality, the movie is an allegory for prejudice as a whole.

    Like, I don't find crap like this funny. I find it infuriating. Because it's not true. https://i.redd.it/0qy9v4on7gs31.jpg Some hard leftists accuse the film of missing the mark because the "predators" evolved from eating prey mammals to eating fish and bugs. That's not meant to symbolize anything in real life, it's just something that happened with those animals in a kids' movie. It doesn't clash with the movie's messaging at all. It's not "police apologism" because the police department is depicted as inept in many ways, and the story contains a moral against unfair profiling.

    Now for some reason, the "NP" link option isn't working, but I discussed this before in BreadTube and Complete Anarchy.

    I'm asking you how you feel about this because I once encountered a thread in this sub mocking Judy Hopps, doing the whole "ACAB" thing, and I was legit upset by it.

    If you think I'm some kind of idiot, weirdo or loser for getting so emotional about a movie aimed at kids that's part of a big corporation, that's your right. But people have been sharing "Judy's a pig, smash the state" memes in the Zootopia sub. And as someone who can't watch certain scenes in the movie without crying my eyes out, they really bothered me and I didn't think they were fair at all.

    Especially given how aggressively critical the movie is of law enforcement, and bigotry in general.

    • Amorphous [any]
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      4 years ago

      what happened to that weirdo anyway

      i was a fan. did they ever make it to this site?

    • spez [any]
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      4 years ago

      You can like the movie and still acknowledge the themes. When the Citations Needed guys pick apart a show or genre they often admit to liking it for entertainment value, while still being able to see the negative messaging.

      I love Law and Order. I could watch that show all day. I cried when Briscoe's daughter died. Doesn't mean he isn't a fucking pig. Doesn't mean the show doesn't normalize being interrogated by cops while your at work or help bolster belief in pseudoscientific forensic techniques.

      I'd fuck Judy Rabbit but she's still a fucking pig.

      Hey, when is a rabbit not a rabbit?

    • kristina [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      the fish and bugs are uh.... oppressed countries my dude, and predators are clearly capitalists