Marxists can predict the future to some extent. So what marxist would think investing in property in LA of all places is a good idea. That place is not going to be a good place to live in the future climate change is going to fuck it hard. Never mind that capitalism has already fucked it hard it is already a miserable palce to live if you are poor. It is notorius for the worst of urban planing and sprawl. Like it's hell to anyone with sense.
So like why take out mortgage and invest 3 million into that. I get he is in "showbiz" and needs to be near Hollywood but all that really means is he needs to be close to some of the worst propgandist in the world and schmooze in some of the most bebauched and depraved parties imaginable and what ever else sychophantic psychopathic arse kissing passes for networking over there. All he has done is bound his material intrestest with that of the bourgeosie. Because now he will need to protect his investment and property to keep his family and new wealth.
I don't think people are wrong to point out this it's not envy or jelousy it's seeing pattern repeat and not having the words to describe it becuase they haven't read theory. Dude's material conditions are changing and that changes your outlook and not trusting an ego driven youtuber to stay strong and keep to their morals is perfectly sensible.
IDK maybe some theory nerds can put it into better words or maybe I'm wrong I've only been following this drama on here.
I can't find the energy to care about this. How are we on like day three of this drama?
Well you see, how will I personally lead the revolution with the streamer friends I've formed parasocial relationships with if they're out there spending money on houses and not Maoist militias?
People who run digital daycare centers are the vanguard of the revolution.
How do people care about celeb news, like holy fuck. Soon we’ll get gossip of who will marry soon
Tomorrow: Hassan announces engagement to one of the women from Red Scare
Going to travel back in time to before Al Gore invented the internet and strangle him with an ethernet cord
It started two days ago. Pretty sure it was on here too, but it took over the Twitter feed (it made Hasan trend in Canada when we definitely have better things to care about). Like I get a few of his media friends defending him, I get a few of the people who always hated everything he does jumping at the chance. But why are people who don't think about him normally spending time and energy on this?
But why are people who don’t think about him normally spending time and energy on this?
It is genuinely bizarre, honestly this is what happens when you don't read theory, the North American "left" are just a bunch of confused liberals
The only correct response. Smush your entire face into the grass
Trust is built based on a persons actions. The actions of Engels and Hasan are completely different. It's also telling that you had to go all the way back to Engels for your example of a class traitor. They're not exactly common are they?
Your tail is stuck between your legs a little there! Let your old pal Baked Potato Johnson help get it free!
Call me when Hasan starts sounding as much like a class traitor as Engels...
Engels was famous for saying "Don't like it? Well you should tax me then."
You missed the point my dood.
Engels believed workers should own the means of production to bring about socialism. Hasan seems to think wanting to raise taxes on people like him is all it takes to be a socialist. If he structured his business as a co-op and paid his damn mods and editors their true value there would be significantly less to be upset about. The comparison makes no sense.
Everyone knows you bring about socialism through taxes. All the best left thinkers are saying this.
This dang Deng guy keeps getting in the way of my aesthetics! Socialism should be about getting a degree at the school of hard knocks and that's a fact.
Since when did Marxists cancel Engels? I never signed that petition
I can't tell if your post was satirical now... Are you saying that Engels should be "cancelled" out of the progression of Marxist theory because of his background?
I'm sorry but if serious I find that absolutely ridiculous lol. On that same line of thinking, we should just go ahead and cancel every other renowned revolutionary thinker for "non-revolutionary characteristics".
tangentially related but is Hasan even a marxist? I thought he was another socdem
grifterstreamerHe used to claim to be a marxist but the richer he gets the further he drifts into succdem territory.
:bean-think:
the richer he gets the further he drifts into succdem territory.
wow, surprising!
TBF that was a porn red carpet, and he was the plus one for his pornstar girlfriend
Hasan Paker is not a marxist, Hasan Paker is a social liberal who plays video games online, Hasan Paker is a glorified reaction channel, Hasan Paker does not deserve half dozen threads
Marxists can predict the future to some extent.
All he has done is bound his material intrestest with that of the bourgeosie.
maybe some theory nerds can put it into better words
:matt-jokerfied:
Listening to podcasts is not socialism. Making podcasts is not socialism. It's a big question as to how much having a leftist media pushes the needle. I think people are disppointed because they got the impression that a guy streaming about socialism was doing something and now that's ruined. All this leftist personality stuff is just a brand of media. Just because you don't buy it doesn't make any less consumption than watching CNN. Does anyone really think that CNN is the source of capitalism's power? Of course not.
If it's a question of making the left look bad, who really cares? I get that there are people who's entire introduction to leftwing politics was breadtube and podcasts, but they need to move beyond that at some point. This is a good time to do that. If you haven't learned the lesson yet, learn it now. Creating alternate brands and marketing schemes is not going to make socialism happen. If you think about that long enough you realize you also don't have to care about it or condemn it to let other people know you're on the level. Literally who cares? A media personality buys a house in LA. Shocked.
It has nothing to do with socialism or what it is. It's a bunch of people who should know better getting all wrapped up in an individual's choice or character. Then implicitly tying that to the fate of socialism by either anxiously condemning it or defending it because you don't wanna be owned for liking a millionaire media guy.
You don't even have to use too much theory on this one.
I think people are disppointed because they got the impression that a guy streaming about socialism was doing something and now that’s ruined.
This deserves quoting because it's true.
Lots of kids out there learning that they weren't actually funding The Revolution with their parents' Amazon Prime subscription.
I can't tell if this is a bit
Housing is expensive in socal, even a seemingly small home goes for +1 mill, if he has the money for it why not go for a home?
As for living anywhere else, sometimes friends and family connections are worth staying near. Plus the food is good here, whenever I visited out of state the food was something Id miss. In socal you are driving distance away from events, places of interest, there's a lot of perks, but it's expensive as hell.
Yeah I mean if he had millions in cash just laying around then I can understand some pushback from the audience and people here. But (not know too much about the details because don't care about leftist twitch) I'm guessing he just got a mortgage, and frankly while 3 million is definitely a nicer house even in Cali, it still is probably just a mid-sized house that is nowhere near a mansion.
But then again I am absolutely speaking out of my ass here on this specific situation.
Idk I mean sure we should be doing as much on the ground work as possible, but are we supposed to pay insane rent until revolution or death just out of spite?
He's not an org or a party, he's a social media influencer with politics we find ourselves semi-adjacent to, arguably not so much as again I don't know much about him.
To anyone that gave him money - what did you expect? Had he said he was going to put the donations to any sort of use other than personal? Or did you just give him money because you liked his content? If so, then what exactly are we arguing about in this post? As the world burns at an ever increasing rate
I don't think the people upset are the ones who gave him money. I sure as hell never did. It strikes me as the opposite where people who gave him money are having a parasocial reaction to him being criticized.
I guess it's hard for me to even imagine what I would do with so much money, housing would be the most expensive, making sure my family was taken care of, and after that, idk I feel I wouldn't need much, but that doesn't mean I have the right to tell someone else what to do with thier money.
Your old pal Baked Potato Johnson has never given Hasan a cent! I'm just happy he can provide housing for his mom! Now that I'm divorced, I'll never have children who could do that for me.
Suburb of LA here. Bought this almost 2000 sqft house in 2012 for about 350K. Right now others on the block are selling for a million or more, and ours is bigger and has some renovations so it could potentially be worth even more than that if we decided to sell it.
Beverly Grove (I think that's where Hasan's house is?) is much more centrally located and a more expensive area to begin with, but if this ridiculous spike in prices is roughly even around the city, then it might have been a million dollar home a few years ago or even less
Marxists can predict the future to some extent
we're pretty shitty at it, tbh.
Marxists can predict the future to some extent
Watch a movie. Learn how to draw Eagles or something. Anything but this :whywhywhywhywhy:
Lol, right? Even when the argument goes into whether he's petite bourg or a prole or a porky and his relationship to the MOP, it swings back to the house somehow?
Everyone needs housing. Capitalism made houses shitty, but It's OK to have a house. Diogenes wasn't a revolutionary, he was a crustie.
I'm not arguing either way in the struggle session but damn how big does a house have to be to be a mansion? 5 bedrooms sounds insanely big, maybe that's an American thing but I've never known anyone with a house that size.
Assuming all bedrooms are occupied, efficiency goes up with higher amounts of bedrooms, no? 5 one bedroom houses need 5 kitchens and 5 living rooms, 1 five bedroom house only needs 1 of those.
I know a lot of families with intergenerational households that have 3+ bedroom houses though. Hell, I live in a 5 bedroom house, but I also live with 4 other adults and 2 kids. The line between a big house and small mansion is "are those rooms being used?"
That's not even close to reality. For one, there is plenty of space for everyone to live; presuming otherwise is Malthusian nonsense.
I agree! My wife divorced me after I moved our 9 person family into a 1 bedroom house, but I agree! We had a futon, it would have been fine!
His family lives in there and he works from his home. So one room is for streaming
