Yeah, and basic physics says there are only 3 dimensions while advanced physics says there may be up to 11

  • ImSoOCD [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    I hate that my first instinct against that argument is to cite a fallacy, but the idea that biology says anything about gender is begging the question so hard. If you’re trying to deny the existence of non-binary people using biology, you’ve got to argue that sex and gender are the same thing or that intersex people don’t exist which is significantly harder. So saying that biology’s literature on sex is inherently the same as gender and trying to use that to justify yourself is so circular. And of course like you said that’s assuming that biology actually says that which it doesn’t. I also understand it’s not worth even engaging with or debunking but fuck it’s so nonsensical

    • fadsdie [undecided]
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      3 years ago

      99% of intersex people fall comfortably into either male or female. Very little actually falls inbetween. Beyond that very few trans people are actually intersex either.

      Non binary is so anti gatekeeping that every single human that has ever existed can accurately identify as non-binary. All you have to do to be NB is believe that you don't 100% fit into strict gender roles. That's it. Literally everyone can do that. Its a meaningless label. Saying you identify as non binary tells someone absolutely nothing about you except that you think people who identify as men/women actually fit neatly into those gender roles.

      Most people think sex and gender are the same thing because they are treated as synonyms by all of our laws. Plus progressivism from the 90s until the 2010s made defining gender as anything other than your sex, sexist. Like saying being a man/women is about how you dress or act is extremely sexist to the vast majority of the population.

  • LoudMuffin [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I'm not particularly interested in trans issues or shit like that but one thing that turned me away from 4chan edgy anti SJW shit is me realizing wage labor sucks and then just being like, who gives a fucking shit?

    Like, I genuinely do not care what trans people do. Why do you give a shit? How privileged and comfortable do you have to be that your most pressing political concern is shitting on someone trying to live their life in a way that makes them happy? You don't even have to fucking look at trans people! Leave them alone what the fuck!!!! I won't have health insurance in a few months you assholes!!!

  • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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    3 years ago

    Basic physics says that if you apply 500,000,000 N of force to a 1 kg object, that object will accelerate to 500,000 km per second.

      • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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        3 years ago

        The answer is that it doesn't go above 3x10^9 m/s because that's the speed of light. The larger the ratio of the velocity of the speed of light, the more it picks up momentum (but not more speed).

        This was one of the ways that "basic physics" (from Galileo through to about 1900) broke down.

          • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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            3 years ago

            Because c (the speed of light) is one of few fixed universal constants. Length and mass and even time can be sort of distorted (this comes with a lot of fine print), but the speed of light stays the same.

            My best explanation is that there is a base rate at which the universe unfolds or progresses, and then there are things that are physically displaced at a rate slower than that. Say 10 units of distance can be crossed in 10 "steps" of time, but there are things that take a more meandering route, and that move less distance than the default with each step, so they take maybe 1 million steps to cross those 10 units. Electricity in an object might have a speed close to light, but the object as a whole is effectively much slower, because it takes exponentially more energy to get the large object going that fast.

              • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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                3 years ago

                Everything gets weird down below the scale that we're visually and intuitively familiar with. Probably because our reality emerges from a huge amount of complex interactions on the smaller levels.

                Here's maybe a better example. You press play and some simple things go in straight lines. Atoms have their electron clouds pulsing/rotating at the default speed, but as a whole they go a lot slower. An electron goes through chlorophyll on a roller coaster-like trajectory at the same (-ish) speed that a photon goes through space. More massive molecules and objects have charges inside them moving at the default speed, but they themselves have a slower pace than the little bits that zip around at the default speed.

                It's helpful to think of it not so much as a matter of speed, compared to 0, but slowness, compared to c.

      • Lerios [hy/hym]
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        3 years ago

        potentially, yeah. also i'm not sure what OP is implying specifically, there could well be multiple things wrong with it, but that calculation takes no account of drag, air resistance, or friction. I can tell you from experience that even university level physics likes to ignore that shit a lot of the time lol. generally, whenever you're applying force/energy to anything, a significant amount is going to be lost to heat, drag, sound, etc but nobody likes to acknowledge it because it can make calculations annoying.

        • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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          3 years ago

          I should've added "in a vacuum" to make it clear that I was implying special relativity.

  • ssjmarx [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    11 dimensions

    Listen buddy, four dimensions is fucking pushing it.

  • steve5487 [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    I thought the party line was that gender is a cultural phenomenon and sex is a biological phenomenon in which case basic biology says nothing about gender

  • Chapo_is_Red [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Normally I'd say to never use an analogy to advanced physics to back up an argument, but I guess it could be effective with reddit atheists.

  • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Stop normalizing string theories, they're dumb as shit.

    Besides, basic physics ignores air resistance and I think that hits harder anyway.

  • Owl [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    The white-throated sparrow has four.