lol, bringing up her suicide attempts here is sociopathic.

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1433480072288247809

  • MsUltraViolet [she/her]
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    The way he says "she was in prison repeatedly trying to kill herself" as if it's some damning flaw against Manning.

    Any normal human being with standard psychology, much less a person being persecuted by the state, would fucking break if they were put in the conditions manning was, with repeated, long periods of solitary confinement, not to mention the rampant transphobia I can only assume takes place in an institutional prison environment like that. The only type of person that WOULDN'T want to die in conditions like that is a fucking sociopath freak like Greenwald

    • zeal0telite [he/him,they/them]
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      3 years ago

      I was gonna say that's literally an abuse tactic. Emotional manipulation.

      Honestly I'd actually say that this is gaslighting for once, since it's getting her to try and doubt her own experience of Glenn's "friendship". "Actually, I'm the good guy in this scenario" he says, all while spouting off transphobic arguments.

      • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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        3 years ago

        The phrase "one of the only one[s]" is doing a lot of work. Like, sure maybe you had a few other close friends at the time, but really wasn't I one of your closest? Wasn't I exceptionally self-sacrificing?

  • Wertheimer [any]
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    3 years ago

    U.S. Government: I gave Chelsea a job in the Army and made her eligible for the G.I. Bill, let her travel the world, and she repaid me by leaking evidence of my crimes. No good deed goes unpunished!

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      Lol amazing how simply adding an exclamation mark to "no good deed goes unpunished" makes it into a Trump tweet.

  • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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    3 years ago

    Glenn Greenwald literally endorsed several transphobic conspiracy theories, in no fucking reality does he have the right to complain about a trans woman publicly distancing herself from him.

    • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      He has said transphobic shit himself even. I'm 99% sure one of them was the whole trans people in sports thing like 6 months ago. There has been more too

      • PeterTheAverage [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        He's also said that the fact that more bi people date someone of the opposite gender than people of the same gender that means a lot of people are lying about being bi.

  • wtypstanaccount04 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Fuck Glenn Greenwald. What a slimy piece of shit. Don't bring up someone's suicide attempts.

  • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    "You do one kind thing out of self-interest and fifty billion bad things for the same reason and all of a sudden, you're the bad guy!"

    • LangdonAlger [any]
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      3 years ago

      Let the hunt COMMENCE

      This is satire, not in the ironic sense that we usually say it's satire, but I think the op is a silly post, gg hasn't gotten the benefit of the doubt from this forum for a while

      • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
        hexagon
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        3 years ago

        For me it went out the window when he left the intercept. He clearly has no interest in doing investigative journalism anymore. If he's not doing stuff like the Lava Jato coverage, he's no longer useful to the left, so doing "sure he's problematic, but..." doesn't make sense. That and I mean he's pretty explicitly right wing at this point, his current project is clearly to give a vaguely left-wing justification for people like Tucker and JD Vance.

      • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        there were defenders here rehashing glenn's past hits as if it absolves him of everything just the other day

        • FreakingSpy [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Also we can't forget that Glenn's past includes doing pro-bono legal representation for a nazi in the name of :freeze-peach:. That nazi later ordered the death of a judge, and one of his followers killed several jewish people.

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      I'm assuming Vaush was like: "I used to really like you when I found out that there was a huge age gap with your husband, but now I'm hearing he was over 18 when you started dating??"

  • Coca_Cola_but_Commie [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I don’t know if their opinions have changed, but I never did like Trueanon’s uncritical support of Greenwald just because he was oppositional to liberals and lib media. They’ve got a tendency to uncritically swallow whatever right wing propagandists say that make libs look bad, like that time they heard that Bannon totally had a laptop that proved Hunter Biden was a child pornographer, except Bannon conveniently never went public about it. There’s just hearsay.

    Not to make this post about TA, it’s just my only exposure to Greenwald is seeing him get dunked on Twitter and also their show. It’s a shame because their interview with him was actually pretty interesting, talking about how the Steele dossier was fake news that would’ve gotten laughed out of any serious newsroom before Trump, but with Trump the media had a cash-cow. Obviously I know he was the reporter for the Snowden stuff, but that was before I was politically engaged, so I was surprised to learn that he’s a libertarian and at best a useful idiot to the left (and, at worst, a pretty harmful dude as the OP shows).

    Chelsea Manning was also before my time. I’ve picked up the gist of her story, though, over the years, but haven’t done a deep dive. Uncritical support to her.

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      I think TA mostly just gives him too much leeway due to the Snowden leaks and the Lava Jato investigation coverage. I don't think it's fully motivated by him being confrontational with liberals.

      • fuckwit [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        dude had enough combat training to fight in the syrian civil war for the YPG. I’m not saying he’s sus, but it’s not like it would becompletely shocking

        • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          to me the even weirder thing is coming back to the US apparently without any friction from the feds and slotting back into a big union and getting some alt media notoriety

        • The_Walkening [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          dude had enough combat training to fight in the syrian civil war for the YPG

          I mean they train people to fight there, so I could imagine he learned to fight out there.

        • ConstipationNation [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          the YPG had/has an internationalist brigade, there were quite a few leftists from around North America, Europe, and Turkey who joined the YPG, as well as some non-leftist ex-US Army types who joined the YPG so they could fight ISIS.

          The YPG is also just a militia, not a professional military, I don't think military experience was a requirement to join.

      • Pezevenk [he/him]
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        I don't understand why American leftists are so obsessed with linking people to the feds or whatever. Like what the hell is it that you guys have going on right now that's so important that the feds are working non stop to quash it via planting people in semi-obscure podcasts and forums to have semi-bad takes every now and then lol

        • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          are you not familiar with our feds? because they're definitely working nonstop to keep tabs on the left and make sure there's nothing united about it

          • Pezevenk [he/him]
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            I can definitely see how that makes people feel like what they're doing is more important than it is. Sure they are probably slightly influencing some things, but not this terminally online nonsense. Look at how weak and fucked the radical left is, they don't have to do that much unless it actually becomes something. Spreading suspicion and doubt around people by saying you suspect them for being feds or CIA or whatever doesn't protect anyone from anything, it just perpetuates division and makes external observers think you're a bunch of weirdos. Even less trust is not something you remotely need right now. There's so many posts cropping up on left internet every now and then of people being like "I'm considering joining an organization and x org has a chapter close to me but I'm afraid they might be feds". It's so stupid, it's like people are doing their job for them. The reason there is nothing united about the left is the left itself (including this stupid self policing) and material conditions, not the feds.

    • TankieTanuki [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Citations Needed has had Greenwald on as a guest too but I don't think that means they uncritically support him.

  • Deadend [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Glenn is a weirdo. He really acts like whose money he takes has no influence on what he says.

    "My brain is so powerful I'm utterly immune to influence!"

  • richietozier4 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I constantly denigrate people like you, why don’t you want to be friends?????