• ElGosso [he/him]
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    6 months ago

    Look, if you don't want me to complain that a video is too long, then don't post a video essay that would be six paragraphs of content if it were written down but instead has been fluffed out to thirty minutes. shrug-outta-hecks

    • daisy
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      6 months ago

      Oh my goodness yes. If something can be presented well in a blog post, it damn well should be.

      • Great_Leader_Is_Dead
        hexagon
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        6 months ago

        What if I like there being a visual element and perhaps the occasional comedic aside?

        • daisy
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          6 months ago

          I think a lot can be done with blog posts that have short embedded videos as appropriate.

          • Great_Leader_Is_Dead
            hexagon
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            6 months ago

            There's people out there making content like that. Idk I just don't get their weird hostility towards a whole genre. If you don't like it fine, if you have specific criticisms of a specific work fine, if you dislike how the industry is incentivizing it over other work fine, but it's weird to just reflexively condemn the entire medium.

    • Egon [they/them]
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      6 months ago

      Video essays should never just be someone reading into a screen. Then it is no different from a regular essay. The 'video' part must play a central role for the video essay to have a valid reason of existence.

      • ElGosso [he/him]
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        6 months ago

        Even then too many of them have too much fluff to hit algorithmic length standards.

      • Raebxeh
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        6 months ago

        Yeah, so many copycats of channels like Nerdwriter and Every Frame A Painting completely miss the point of what those channels do with the medium.

  • blashork [she/her]
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    6 months ago

    This meme is revisionism. People here are just as ready to shank each other over philosophy, history, economics, etc. as they are to do it over media bullshit.

    • Great_Leader_Is_Dead
      hexagon
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      6 months ago

      Those debates can get nasty but at least people generally have something of substance to say and common ground is often found.

      The most smuglord and nasty ass comments I've seen here have been in media debates. It often descends into people making mean assumptions about each other based on their media tastes, like people assuming a poster must be white, or cis, or a virgin cuz they liked an anime someone else doesn't.

    • Great_Leader_Is_Dead
      hexagon
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      6 months ago

      Andor is good but I do get the vibe it's written by Libs who are also just military history nerds and accidentally made it seem Leninist cuz they read a bunch of shit about Che and the Bolsheviks before hand.

      • machiabelly [she/her]
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        6 months ago

        Accuratly portraying history is doing a communism. You dont have to intentionally do a communism to do a communism.

        • Great_Leader_Is_Dead
          hexagon
          ·
          6 months ago

          True but idk how accurate we can call it till it's over

          • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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            6 months ago

            They can't make the rebellion bad. It's Star Wars. They can Grey it uo a bit but we already know how things go and it's pretty clear who the good guys are and they won't be allowed to change that too much.

            • machiabelly [she/her]
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              6 months ago

              What they can do is make the radical elements of the rebellion out to be holding them back, but it doesn't make sense with the story at all.

              • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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                6 months ago

                That's how Saw Gerrera is usually used, but Andor was special because they didn't do that with him. He's not bad in Andor because he's too extreme, he's an obstacle for Luthen because he refuses to unite- and he's right to do so. If he'd agreed with Luthen in their first conversation his whole org would have been killed

          • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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            6 months ago

            Literally a TV show about interplanetary space empire ruled by an evil wizard, so... very likely it will deviate from reality by leaps and bounds.

            Its entertainment. It happens to be entertainment with good politics, but its still just a big dumb show for the hogs. If you want history, read history. If you want politics, go to a fucking meeting full of other people interested in doing politics. If you want a fairy tale about some cool dudes cosplaying as that one Russian guy who successfully led a revolution, then that's fine. Everyone wants a bit of entertainment now and then. But that's what that is.

            • CatoPosting [comrade/them, he/him]
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              6 months ago

              Humans are a storytelling species, I'd hazard that for the average person a well put together narrative has infinitely more swaying power than history. You can transform actual history into a clean, compelling narrative, but then much nuance is lost and it becomes something of a mistruth. To package a narrative taken from history into a fictional story allows the themes to stand out, without risking someone feeling misled.

      • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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        6 months ago

        That's fine by me cause they're stuck with a cannon where the rebellion is absolutely the good guys. I'm certain it was by accident but it'd be pretty lib of me to judge thebintent behind something rather than the material result.

      • Łumało [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
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        6 months ago

        We have a few options, someone tried forcing glegle somewhere (can't remember where) if I recall correctly. I found this one by googling glegle, and got on some weird but interesting looking imageboard; brainworm.rodeo:

        Show

        But I think it doesn't really solve the fundamental issue of Wojaks, being repetetive and unoriginal.

        We could also return to 2008 and either use rage comics or make original stuff. Or we can use Alunya xddddddd

        As long as it's not Wojaks it's great, it's the one cultural export from Poland that is nothing but a scourge on the internet. Even making something similar to Wojaks (like glegle) would be much better.

        • voight [he/him, any]
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          6 months ago

          someone tried forcing glegle somewhere (can't remember where)

          Really. You can't remember?

            • voight [he/him, any]
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              6 months ago

              Oh I thought you were being glib, Leftypol is practically a sister site. Just fyi the mods there constantly say the N word in Discord and Matrix even though they wordfilter it on the board. Crazy asses

              • Łumało [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
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                6 months ago

                Oh I thought you were being glib

                ???

                I'm extremely confused on how I even could've come off this way but ok xdddddd

                Leftypol is practically a sister site.

                Pfffff, I know leftypol that's why alunya got mentioned xdd

                I frequent it only for the hero only known as "news anon". Legend. And maybe I'll visit one of the war generals for news too and most rarely I check out /prc/.

                Couldn't care for any of the idiots on there or their matrix channel.

                • voight [he/him, any]
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                  6 months ago

                  Ok so you were being glib and you did know where it was from. I'm not like starting a shitstorm just warning you why your posts are being removed on there if you go haha. Also if you use emotes they'll think you're one guy called "emoji anon". 😭

                  Yeah good point I haven't checked their war generals in a while. They seemed so resentful that it actually brought traffic to the site. I'll give it a good ole perusal

                  • Łumało [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
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                    6 months ago

                    Wait so glegle is from leftypol? If so, fuck my memory man. Shit sucks.

                    Yeah good point I haven’t checked their war generals in a while. They seemed so resentful that it actually brought traffic to the site. I’ll give it a good ole perusal

                    From what I remember the war generals spiked activity, they were moving way too fast to keep up.

                    • voight [he/him, any]
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                      6 months ago

                      Yeah wanting people to use their drawings was a big impetus behind banning wojaks. I urged them to do so hoping it would make them stop going crazy about anyone who doesn't stand against Venezuelan imperialism etcetera, whatever's on their mind, but it didn't seem to make the site less toxic. I don't really go on there much, it's just wild how whenever there's a major happening the Matrix tries to concoct leftist reasons to agree with WAPO if it's a little offbeat enough to slip it by people. 🙄 Layers of contrarianism and imageboard irony poisoning, like sheesh I'd rather talk to Twitter leftists, that's saying something. One of their mods also mods here iirc

  • Raebxeh
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    6 months ago

    Media which packs the same information into a shorter time span time takes more time to produce. So if you think about it, if you say Harris Bomb Man’s 4 hour video is boring, you’re actually saying you’re entitled to free labor

    berdly-smug

    • Great_Leader_Is_Dead
      hexagon
      ·
      6 months ago

      Eh, the resistance being lead by nerdy scientists seems a little Reddit STEMlord

      • MarxGuns [comrade/them]
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        6 months ago

        Accurate. A better revolution would be all those poor bastards you see around City 17 leading things instead of the nerds (I say as a nerdy engineer person).

    • TraumaDumpling
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      6 months ago

      i always got anti-soviet vibes from HL2 personally, especially since the combine cops have gas masks that are almost identical to certain soviet gas masks. that and the dreary dilapidated vaguely eastern european scenery. plus its literally about a great man who is chosen by some magical briefcase guy to be the hero. idk to me it was like an anti-soviet YA novel.

      • Erika3sis [she/her, xe/xem]
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        6 months ago

        If anything, I'd say that Half-Life 2 ridicules the idea of the "great man". For instance, the City 17 Uprising was only possible because of 20 years of the resistance building up under the assumption that Gordon was already dead, and the uprising was only triggered by the destruction of Nova Prospekt — which was completely accidental and not even Gordon's fault. And for the first week of the City 17 Uprising, again, Gordon was completely absent and presumed dead, and yet the resistance just kept growing. All of the Combine's focus on hunting down "Anticitizen One" ended up being pointless, because the resistance would just persist without him anyways, as it always had!

        So, Gordon's shoes could be filled by anybody at any point... But that's exactly what you're doing when you play a video game with a silent protagonist, anyways! Any "greatness" that Gordon has is your own. You are the "right man in the wrong place" — "being the hero" was your choice by continuing to play the game. All that the Gman really is is the sort of "middle man" between the real world and the game world — that's my understanding, at least. The Gman is such an enigmatic figure that to me the best interpretations of him are always meta in some way, rather than just taking everything at face value.

        Gordon achieved this sort of messianic status because the Black Mesa Incident had been made into this legend to inspire hope in the resistance. But Gordon Freeman himself remains aware throughout the entire game that his success has always at every point relied on others' help, on the networks already in place, on the enemy's mistakes, on the little coincidences here and there. Gordon just cannot speak for himself — just like the actual so-called "great men" of history cannot speak against their own mythologization.

        I mean, I have a lot more thoughts on this, naturally, including some that touch on aesthetics — but it's late and three probably very pretentious paragraphs is probably enough.

  • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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    6 months ago

    One day soon the "If I have to hear about YouTube videos being too long ONE MORE TIME!" Youtube vid by UrsineShape1000 will be 1,000 hours long. And the post on it here is the most popular thread ever. Although it eventually causes a struggle session and is shut down at a few hundred comments which is far shorter than the hoped for 1,000 comments.

  • CrushKillDestroySwag
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    edit-2
    6 months ago

    (four hour video essay)

    Me: This is outrageous! Youtube must retvrn to the era of ten minute uploads!

    Also me: (watches that shit)

    • Great_Leader_Is_Dead
      hexagon
      ·
      6 months ago

      What if my goal isn't being witty but being encompassing?

    • Egon [they/them]
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      edit-2
      6 months ago

      Bill shakey spear also thought dick jokes were hilarious (they are), so maybe we don't have to treat his words like gospel.