I dunno how to make an archive link to subvert the pay wall :( But this article is interesting.
I skimmed the article. No mention of how college frequently requires with a $60,000+ non-dischargeable loan and how that price gets higher every year.
Just feels like they’re trying to answer a question without thinking about material circumstances very deeply.
Fair point. Although I think the discussion of why fewer men go to college now is a vague shadow of a bigger discussion. To draw the lines at men vs. women seems at best like a distraction
Perhaps WSJ might intend it as a distraction (though that's being generous).
It is still a question worth asking not with the WSJ article's framing but as materialists to understand the how the conditions and structures we are living in have changed.
Men have more opportunities with a high school diploma than women do
Yet skyrocketing education costs have made college more risky today than for past generations, potentially saddling graduates in lower-paying careers—as well as those who drop out—with student loans they can’t repay.
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Men in interviews around the U.S. said they quit school or didn’t enroll because they didn’t see enough value in a college degree for all the effort and expense required to earn one. Many said they wanted to make money after high school.
I agree. They were pretty clearly trying to pin the blame on "reverse oppression" because it's the WSJ and they suck. But they at least devoted a couple sentences to the elephant in the room.
American colleges, which are embroiled in debates over racial and gender equality, and working on ways to reduce sexual assault and harassment of women on campus, have yet to reach a consensus on what might slow the retreat of men from higher education.
Please go suck on a loaded pistol and play with the trigger
I basically graduated before tuition rates got really bad. I currently have about 9k of debt left. Its insane talking to people a few/several years younger than me (I'm 32) and they have over 100k.
I remember how recently Pelosi said that she would not be in favor of cancelling college debt because of how "unfair" it would be to the people who have already paid theirs. :agony-limitless:
Bitch I wouldn't care if I had $100 left. Relieve peoples loans you fucking ghoul.
Pelosi Trolley Problem: You can press a button to solve all world hunger, but that would be unfair to everyone who ever died of starvation.
says a lot about her but nothing about "the people who have already paid theirs"
fuck her to hell
You do what you're supposed to do, you fail. You don't, you fail in a different way. At this point there's no reason to live in America.
folks were just dicussin this earlier over here: https://hexbear.net/post/138370
Yep! I knew I had read an article about it, so I figured others might like to read it.
Is literally anywhere even better? The rest of the West seems like it has the same issues, and all the 3rd world countries are probably even worse.
I've considered moving to Chile or Mexico (or Spain) because I speak Spanish fluently, but the 1st one is okay but also has serious issues, 2nd is an absolute shithole (although it's technically my ancestral homelvnd), and the 3rd is...uhh..special with regards to employment and it also has an unironic fascist party
I may fuck off to Mexico with my dad because he says he regrets coming here (LMAO) but it's like....damn that place seems even worse
I may fuck off to Mexico with my dad because he says he regrets coming here
LOL we desperately need to add this as a site tagline!
Honestly, I am considering learning Mandarin and trying to get to China. I have no real detailed predictions on this front, but since you know Spanish and this is a bit of a 'wait and see thing', any serious decline in the USA's position in world hegemony would make things better for Cuba. Cuba is one of the few nations that really seems adaptable and able to meet difficult situations head on.
I dropped out as soon as COVID heated up, around March 2020. Why the fuck should I pay for material I can find online? The only way to get a decent job in this country is to know somebody who knows somebody
I went to the Joe Rogan academy of DMT arts (minor in hard knocks)
No but legitimately being neurodivergent in college is trash. The entire institution can suck my whole ass.
Why should I waste my time preparing for a future that obviously doesn't exist
This happened to me for a bit, but then I realized my passion was a very specific science field, and not a money making science field.
Basically I had to come to terms with fact that college wasn't for me to make money it was for me to do what I care about something that would be easier to do without capitalism.
I'm in a similar spot. I'm going into fields with limited prospects and specifically refusing the most lucrative one available because it's immoral. I also loved the looks on all my money-brained classmates' faces in high school when I told them I didn't care if I died penniless in a gutter so long as I did something I loved.
I've given up on everything. Just hoping I can get on disability and live on that forever at this point.
