Lol it's hard to convey just how bad TV was after 9/11 for quite awhile. Everything was over the top sad. Also while on the topic I'm pretty sure if I recall correctly for the entire day of 9/11 every single network besides kids shows and maybe a few others like weather all were showing 9/11 coverage. You literally couldn't find a channel not rebroadcasting the news coverage besides those, it was wild.
Sorry I just think America pretending to be sad about 9/11 is funny now in a :jokerfied: way cause it's pretty clear that America loves when people die :covid-cool:
All good. I knew what you meant, everything was so Hallmarky for quite awhile. It's not so different than now with covid and how they "honored" essential workers but like 2% of the population has died from it. Its all fake
Just made a comment about this elsewhere in this post. I am 100% convinced most people deep down got a thrill from seeing the death toll climb like in a video game.
That other comment of yours really rings true to me. I know I got a sort of visceral satisfaction from seeing the towers actually collapse after watching them stand and burn for hours that day, and based on your comment I suspect many people felt the same way. I knew it wasn't an acceptable emotion to express, so I've never really talked about it before.
I will note that I was never sure if it was just me or not, hence my silence. I got reprimanded by a teacher that day for mentioning a bit gleefully that the Empire State Building was once again the tallest building in NYC while he was explaining what had happened for some kids who hadn't heard about it yet. (For some reason, as a kid I didn't like the fact that the WTC had outdone the Empire State Building when I learned about it, years prior to 9/11.) But you're right that for most of the US it was simply a spectacle, and one so surreal it was hard to grasp the reality of it. It was more real in my area, not too far from NYC, given that some students had a parent who worked in NYC--myself included, actually, and yet even as I worried about my dad until I got through and found out he was OK, I didn't really see 9/11 for the tragedy it was.
this is why the chuds absolutely love the "muslims celebrated on 9/11" lie, I think they said it about muslims in New Jersey I forget. it's to displace their feelings of guilt at the joy they themselves felt
There was literally a huge increase in cooking show viewership because it was the only FUCKING thing not about 9/11 - they could get away with just showing cooking without being expected to constantly talk about 9/11. The news was on near-blackout, just constant WTC exploding and people talking about WTC exploding, almost nothing else.
It's so hard to convey how absolutely insane that time was. How that mental virus spread so rapidly and swept away everything before it.
The thirst for blood was staggering.
Yeah I legit will never forget that day at school, I'm on the west coast so I actually woke up to it happening and saw the second plane hit on TV before school and as soon as I got to school a bunch of middle schoolers were all huddling together regurgitating who we thought did it because of what our parents said and then saying we should bomb them. like everyone thought a different country was to blame, I remember Algeria, Russia, Syria, and Iran were all in the mix, including others. Just everyone naming off countries we should bomb. And then later that same exact type of conversation played out on TV with grown adults lol
I remember me and my classmates speculating whether "the Muslims" were going to blow up the Eiffel Tower next
This was in Finland
Yeah it really didn't take very long for us to start blaming anyone in the so called middle east. Bin Laden didn't even claim responsibility right away but it was obvious this was going to be a war on Islam and brown people pretty fast. There was attacks on the Sikh communities very shortly after 9/11 among other darker skinned people. Shit was disgusting as hell.
Like this is nothing original to say but it still gives me chills thinking about how fast it was possible to turn the Anglo West into blood hungry warmonger. The propaganda was so thick, people were out there for years committing vigilante "justice." And it never really ended, there is still a deep seeded hatred towards Muslims or anyone who thinks they are Muslim :deeper-sadness:
fast it was possible to turn the Anglo West into blood hungry warmonger
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And South Park made the most racist cartoon this side of Song of the South and STILL managed their "both sides suck" moral.
Nope, there was an episode where Cartman does WWII propaganda cartoon style hijinx in Afghanistan
Yup. That one. They even made sure Afghans actually spoke Urdu but Bin Laden and other Arabs were racist caricatures like in Team America.
:10000-com: agree, it genuinely has caused so many problems. People were fucking broken, their illusion of being the all powerful greatest country on earff was mortally wounded. Blood lust was expected. Patriotism was likely never higher and many people never reflected on everything and remained the same
God this is so spot on. I was a freshman in college when 9/11 happened. I will never forget riding in a truck with my buddy to pick up some t-shirts on that day. It was quiet for a bit and my friend out of nowhere said "I kind of want the death toll to be a lot higher".
For context, this friend was and is a very chill and very compassionate, empathetic person. His statement was a confession to me. He was expressing something he was feeling deep down and he was telling me because he knew it was "wrong", but couldn't really articulate why or why he felt that way. When he said that I knew I kinda felt the same way, too.
I think about that moment a lot. Personally, I don't think Americans (other than those directly impacted and maybe New Yorkers, too) were actually "sad". For 99.9% of Americans, 9/11 was just spectacle. I would bet most Americans on some level wanted the death toll to be crazy high and were a little disappointed it was "only" ~3,000. And I think for a lot of the reasons you say. We knew this was going be a defining moment. Something that would reshape our identity. And also because people just love to play the victim. So yeah, I don't buy that Americans were "sad" because I sure didn't see any genuine sadness around me. Mostly it was like people seeing the first 5 minutes of a really exciting movie that promises to be really interesting. But you don't dare express any excitement because you know on some level you're not supposed to feel that way.
The mood wasn't about mourning the loss of 3000 human beings, it was mourning the fall of American hegemony. That's the line I kept hearing ad nausea in the media. "We were attacked on our own soil." It didn't matter what the impact was, the fact that it happened was an offense to American ego itself. How dare people attack America, don't you know we're the ones who do the invading. We will show you what you signed up for. As if this wasn't a decades of imperalism coming home to roost.
Brie’s former cohost saying in one CTH episode
Perfect. :marx-ok:
Random clips put to sad music right after 9-11 to cash in on the sense of patriotism and escapism by watching shows with actors/actresses who it will never effect because of their class standing?
It’s america time baby.
For the first 3 days after 9/11 people were asking “why did they do this?” And Noam Chomsky even got on TV trying to explain. By the end of day 3 you never saw him on TV again, and the patriotic jingoism took over full steam. I think maybe once Bush made a speech at the twin towers rubble pile saying a bunch of patriotic violent vengeful bullshit.
I guess the CIA got nervous that too many people would find out they funded the muhajadeen in the 1980s lol.
I think maybe once Bush made a speech at the twin towers rubble pile saying a bunch of patriotic violent vengeful bullshit
A local artist put that moment onto canvas, and that work hung in our high school office for a few months.
remind me, was it the same day or the next morning when they made an exception to the no-fly restrictions to get all the Saudi princes out of the country
I want there to be a movie about the week after 9/11 and how insane it was. Thank god I was like 4 years old. My parents said it was terrible.
I distinctly remember a Muslim girl in my Boston school get her headscarf ripped off. It was terrible.
We held a moment of silence over the PA system for the rest of the year. It was like 20 seconds long, which was like 15% of the entire announcements. Shit like that compounded with the endless propaganda absolutely messed with kids. It was fucked up, and then things got super weird with security for things increasing basically overnight. Also the country got extremely open with their racism and Islamophobia which was new for me the way it was so open and common.
Lol sounds exactly right, goddamn there are so many tiny things like this that all added up. How to brain wash a nation: a guide
Do you remember how suddenly songs involving aviation and urban settings were banned from the radio? That was a remarkably stupid time.
Among the songs confirmed to have been cancelled by Danish radio a response to 9/11 were:
- Leaving On A Jet plane
- Highway To Hell
- Burning Down The House
- First We Take Manhattan, Then We Take Berlin
- I'm On Fire
Danish songs were also cancelled, including an upbeat 1970's song with the refrain "Have you ever seen Copenhagen from a DC-9?" and a song with the lyrics "I'd like to be the pilot of a jumbo jet right before it leaves in New York"
The cancellations let to bizarre statements from musicians who felt they had to defend their songs against terror allegations. The guy with the DC-9 song were quoted for this:
I strongly condemn what happened in the USA but it has nothing to do with a DC-9. It was Boeing 747's that flew into the World Trade Center
It should be noted that the "bans" were not governmental and were carried out entirely by the private owners of radio stations. Clear Channel in particular, perhaps others.
I also remember James Bond movies being pulled from the shelves of every Blockbuster for a while.
To be honest I was too busy watching Yu-gi-oh and Samurai Jack to remember the lame shit adults were watching
Genuinely envious, I was surrounded by monsters who wouldn't let it go. Then I had family go into the military 🙃
I was supposedly building up towers with my blocks and then throwing shit at them to knock them down. Truly a poster ahead of my time
