Honestly what's wrong with Jimmy? He never pretend to be public intellectual fraud like Sam Harris. He's a dumbass comedian who see through the lies of the Democrat and 2 party system. His critiques of Bernie 2020 campaign was spot on. We got fucked by one phone call from Obama. Obama and his neolib silicon valley identity politics tech guys still had too much power over the electorates. Bernie should've spent the 4 years repudiating not only Trump but Obama and Hillary style triangulation, the DNC abandoning blue collar working class to be the party of the professional elite, as the reason why we got Trump in the first place. Bernie didn't. He ran a half establishment and half insurgent campaign in 2020, performed worse than he did in 2016, lost all his leverage within the party and got nothing to show for.
What makes you think Obama would not kneecap him in 2016 if he had a real shot? What's stopping Obama from doing the same in 2016 the things he did in 2020? What do you think stopping Obama from actually endorsing Biden in 2020 or Hillary in 2016? Obama endorsement is the trump card, and there is no rule saying that ex-president can't endorse. The establishment didn't even use all their cards both in 2016 and 2020. This just shows how far away we really are from winning electorally.
Are we stanning Jimmy Dore now? With how much this sub loves to hate on Vaush and call him a grifter, but now Jimmy is good because he's just a jokester?
Jimmy Dore is Bill Maher if he was to the left and also did a huge amount of cocaine
There is more to black and white. Jimmy is an idiot with hard on for Tulsi, but more than half of the time he was right. His critics on the DNC being party of professional elites, russiagate, the bullshit two party electoralism are spot on
Sure, I like to adopt the framework of useful-or-not instead of good-or-bad. And the truth is that I think Jimmy Dore's content is so incoherent that instead of being a useful pipeline to further leftist radicalization, he leaves would-be leftists to wander in a desert of hating the DNC and propaganda, but having no framework or larger understanding to tie it to. It's pretty telling that Sam Seder can sniff out Jimmy Dore fans just by how incoherent their babbling is when they're on the phone with him. If he makes you laugh that's fine, but I dont think his project is politically useful. Being right "more than half of the time" is a pretty lowwwwwwwww bar
Even from perspective of maximizing praxis Jimmy is more useful than not for mostly calling out the mainstream media hypocrisy. He kept meatheads like Joe Rogan - 'Oprah for guys' who had massive blue collar trucker audience from drifting into full right wing territory. He give platform for people like Aaron Mate to debunk Russiagate and people like Abby Martin and Norman Finkelstein to voice their support for Palestine. He also rips into Neera Tanden and other neolibs. He's the only person with no self respect from media careerism perspective who call out Syria gas attack as fraudulent conspiracy as it happens, even when regular anti war journalist like Glenn Greenwald being (rightfully) cautious and sit on the fence for a while. Anyone who help out people take a first step towards radicalization is doing praxis and doing good.
Jimmy Dore is better on Imperialism than 99% of the Berniecrat "left". He is definitely a crank, but there seems to be a specific segment of boomer/gen x cranks that are fucking spot on with critique of Imperialism. Like that Green Party dude who tapes giant pictures of Assad to his shirt and shit lmao.
Honestly what's wrong with Jimmy? He never pretend to be public intellectual fraud like Sam Harris. He's a dumbass comedian who see through the lies of the Democrat and 2 party system. His critiques of Bernie 2020 campaign was spot on. We got fucked by one phone call from Obama. Obama and his neolib silicon valley identity politics tech guys still had too much power over the electorates. Bernie should've spent the 4 years repudiating not only Trump but Obama and Hillary style triangulation, the DNC abandoning blue collar working class to be the party of the professional elite, as the reason why we got Trump in the first place. Bernie didn't. He ran a half establishment and half insurgent campaign in 2020, performed worse than he did in 2016, lost all his leverage within the party and got nothing to show for.
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In 2016 he never came close to having a real shot. In 2020 he was the clear frontrunner by all accounts until Obama kneecapped him.
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What makes you think Obama would not kneecap him in 2016 if he had a real shot? What's stopping Obama from doing the same in 2016 the things he did in 2020? What do you think stopping Obama from actually endorsing Biden in 2020 or Hillary in 2016? Obama endorsement is the trump card, and there is no rule saying that ex-president can't endorse. The establishment didn't even use all their cards both in 2016 and 2020. This just shows how far away we really are from winning electorally.
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Are we stanning Jimmy Dore now? With how much this sub loves to hate on Vaush and call him a grifter, but now Jimmy is good because he's just a jokester?
Jimmy Dore is Bill Maher if he was to the left and also did a huge amount of cocaine
There is more to black and white. Jimmy is an idiot with hard on for Tulsi, but more than half of the time he was right. His critics on the DNC being party of professional elites, russiagate, the bullshit two party electoralism are spot on
Sure, I like to adopt the framework of useful-or-not instead of good-or-bad. And the truth is that I think Jimmy Dore's content is so incoherent that instead of being a useful pipeline to further leftist radicalization, he leaves would-be leftists to wander in a desert of hating the DNC and propaganda, but having no framework or larger understanding to tie it to. It's pretty telling that Sam Seder can sniff out Jimmy Dore fans just by how incoherent their babbling is when they're on the phone with him. If he makes you laugh that's fine, but I dont think his project is politically useful. Being right "more than half of the time" is a pretty lowwwwwwwww bar
Even from perspective of maximizing praxis Jimmy is more useful than not for mostly calling out the mainstream media hypocrisy. He kept meatheads like Joe Rogan - 'Oprah for guys' who had massive blue collar trucker audience from drifting into full right wing territory. He give platform for people like Aaron Mate to debunk Russiagate and people like Abby Martin and Norman Finkelstein to voice their support for Palestine. He also rips into Neera Tanden and other neolibs. He's the only person with no self respect from media careerism perspective who call out Syria gas attack as fraudulent conspiracy as it happens, even when regular anti war journalist like Glenn Greenwald being (rightfully) cautious and sit on the fence for a while. Anyone who help out people take a first step towards radicalization is doing praxis and doing good.
Jimmy Dore is better on Imperialism than 99% of the Berniecrat "left". He is definitely a crank, but there seems to be a specific segment of boomer/gen x cranks that are fucking spot on with critique of Imperialism. Like that Green Party dude who tapes giant pictures of Assad to his shirt and shit lmao.